2.1 pump change
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2.1 pump change
looking at buying a 2.1 excutive 406 but the pump has gone how much of a job is it to get it all sorted with another one i no bout the timing belt witch isnt a problem need to no on the electrics and can i use a second hand pump ???
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StevieboyTD
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Re: 2.1 pump change
This is the perfect time to upgrade to a mechanical Bosch pump and get rid of the dreadful Lucas Epic system.
Budget around £100 for a Bosch pump, injector lines & injectors, belt and tensioner kit should be around £40-£50, i'd definately change the waterpump too, maybe another £30.
Swap takes about 3 hours if you take your time and take plenty of photos on your camera/phone so you know where everything goes.
Looks like a big job but it's incredibly easy.
And once you've got a Bosch you can run on veg oil, so the swap even pays for itself!
Budget around £100 for a Bosch pump, injector lines & injectors, belt and tensioner kit should be around £40-£50, i'd definately change the waterpump too, maybe another £30.
Swap takes about 3 hours if you take your time and take plenty of photos on your camera/phone so you know where everything goes.
Looks like a big job but it's incredibly easy.
And once you've got a Bosch you can run on veg oil, so the swap even pays for itself!
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Re: 2.1 pump change
yh but dont that make it loose power ??
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StevieboyTD
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Re: 2.1 pump change
The pump will run fine, you'll lose a fraction of power if you run veg, but not enough to be overly noticeable. (i haven't pump pump fuel in my 2.1 since i got it!)
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I wouldn't run veg oil is smells vile so that ent my worry I got a 1.9 already so the pumps there waiting I just don't wanna be loosing loads of power so witch injecters and pipes do I use ???
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StevieboyTD
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Re: 2.1 pump change
If you use fresh veg off the shelf it smells like popcorn, it's only when you run on used oil that you get the stink. £1/L and smelling like popcorn works for me ;)
You'll need a fully mechanical Bosch pump, not one from a 406, if it's got any wires from under the injector outlet and on top of the throttle arm, it's not suitable. Stuff like the 306 has a suitable pump.
You can use the bosch injector lines and bosch injectors from the 1.9 though, but you won't need to plug the needle lift sensor into anything when you fit them to the 2.1 engine as it doesn't have that system.
You'll need a fully mechanical Bosch pump, not one from a 406, if it's got any wires from under the injector outlet and on top of the throttle arm, it's not suitable. Stuff like the 306 has a suitable pump.
You can use the bosch injector lines and bosch injectors from the 1.9 though, but you won't need to plug the needle lift sensor into anything when you fit them to the 2.1 engine as it doesn't have that system.
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Gary406
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Re: 2.1 pump change
and ive just scrapped my 1.9 td with bosch pump on and all lines and injectors 
i had it on ebay for £50 for the lot. and no buyers. i knew as soon as i scrapped it sum1 would need it .. sods bloody law
i had it on ebay for £50 for the lot. and no buyers. i knew as soon as i scrapped it sum1 would need it .. sods bloody law
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Re: 2.1 pump change
My pump ent got no wiring apart from the plug witch runs behind the security bracket there ent no other wiring so that should be suitable for the job ??
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StevieboyTD
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Re: 2.1 pump change
Ideal. Get the cover off and run a switched 12v live to the stop solenoid.
Also, move the pump studs over to the next set of holes (Lucas and Bosch time up differently)
Also, move the pump studs over to the next set of holes (Lucas and Bosch time up differently)
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well its already sold so got to look for another but ill keep in mind the pump change
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