flywheel convesion kit

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flywheel convesion kit

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got my self a brandnew fly wheel conversion kit to £200,

now im having trouble finding a garage local (brum/cov) that will fit it,

they are demanding i use a DMF and use there parts

so does anyone, know where i can get it done,
id do it my self but im getting to lazy :lol:
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Try Alan at Cov Gearbox. Great bloke, no relation. worth a try!
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have you read about the problems a fly wheel conversion can cause ??

i personally dont have a dual mass in my car but have read many problems a conversion can cause
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tbh i think all this duel mass crap is a load of bollox
iv owned a diesel with over 450ftLb with a soild fly and std gearbox, never broke once, well it stripped a gear but that was me being stupid

i think its just another con, the car makers got together and had a think on what never breaks, :evil:
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sure sum1 on here posted a problem he had with his solid conversion

he had a bad judder in 1st gear , have a search through the forum im sure its in here sumwere
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Gary406 wrote:sure sum1 on here posted a problem he had with his solid conversion

he had a bad judder in 1st gear , have a search through the forum im sure its in here sumwere
that would be bad clutch alignment,
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tbh it really needs changing 150k, on its orginal clutch :shock:
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generalbaxter wrote:tbh it really needs changing 150k, on its orginal clutch :shock:
if you are in south wales i know a garage that'll fit it, mine lol
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"Understeer" is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"Oversteer" is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"Horsepower" is how fast you hit the fence.
"Torque" is how far you take the fence with you.
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Gary406 wrote:sure sum1 on here posted a problem he had with his solid conversion

he had a bad judder in 1st gear , have a search through the forum im sure its in here sumwere
I can remember from the Mondeo forums that it was mainly a refinement issue.M<ost of the guys that did the conversion found that it was a little more rattly & a bit more juddery on pull away, but the conversion was much more commonly done with the Mondeos as the clutches weren't lasting that long. My TDDi had the clutch replaced at 70k & before I bought my Pug I looked at a TDCi with 85k & a knackered clutch. Foot down at 35mph in 4th & the rev counter went mad. Salesman tried toi tell me that it was because there was so much power & that it had a recent clutch. Must be some power to make it wheelspin in 4th & even then, the speedo would've gone up by a bit...

Back to the flywheels though, whilst the Mondeos are going between 70-90k, the Peugeots seem to be lasting a lot longer, so I would've thought it'd be better to put the proper part in seeing as the durability on it is pretty good.
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We had the clutch done on our transit, and that had the solid flywheel conversion to it, and I agree it's less refined.

As you say waue, with the DMF "seemingly" to last for a reasonable length of time, I concur that fitting a new DMF is the better option than the solid flywheel
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i want to convert mine to a solid flywheel, as my mechanic told me the dmf is only for old grannies to stop them ripping the clutches out of cars, but makes no difference if you can drive properly. Also a solid flywheel copes better with a remapped car.
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I thought we decided, a good few threads about this very subject back, that the point of the dmf was to prevent the torque of the engine shearing the gearbox input shaft and that the lack of any guarantees by the solid flywheel suppliers was worrying.

Then again, I know lots of people have fitted them yet I've heard of no failures and that Pug redesigned the input shaft...
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Just a quick note about my experience this week....

I had my 407 in to the dealers for a diagnosis confirmation of the DMF fault on my 407 (I want them to pay as my car has only done 40,000 miles)...anyway...

Whilst I was waiting for my car I asked my mate in the parts dept for a price for a new clutch and DMF, he gave me large discount for trade....when he was looking through the parts list he looked for a solid conversion availability, according to him, there is a solid conversion option on several models, but not mine :(

Perhaps folks might check which models, if any, of the 406 actually have the option for a solid conversion.
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This would be for parts supplied by Pug, rather than after-market jobbies? I can't find any on Service Box :?
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He was reading off his screen, don't know what he was on about then :?

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