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Relax, I'm very unlikely to get a Caravelle - the main reason the mrs doesn't want to drive the 406 (apart from it's too low) is it's too long. The Caravelle is about 20cm longer :roll: Maybe I should look at an 807 (& whatever the C is) I'm just a bit put orf 'cos they're also a Fiat Useless (or are they?) My god, between her "must be 2cm long and a mile tall" and my prejudices, I'm going to be driving the terriblota and have a 406 in the garage forever :roll:

I forgot to mention, about 2 months back I had the rear pads changed. When the mechanic took the covers off there were a load of little clips and stuff that fell out. Also it had 7 (!) anti-squeal shims (wtf??) About a week after it started squealing like pigs on a honeymoon so I ordered up all the little clips from Toyota (about 15 quid). I couldn't figure out the shims though, one diagram says 2 for every pad, another says just one. Oh, that diagram also has a note that if the pin retaining clips aren't put back the pins'll fall out and wreck the caliper. I was driving it like that for 6 weeks before I noticed. Anyway, the mechanic fitted them on Friday, he said it wouldn't make any difference and he was sort of right, if anything they're louder :roll:
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Iwas only joking mate, :oops: ..

Whats so bad about the Ravs mate,

Ive not Driven one but ..they seem comfy, There on the Tad claustrophobic size to me tho abeit cramped,
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I reckon there was more room in a Mk3 Escort.

What's so bad about the RAV? How long have you got? :shock:

What I like about the RAV:
Upright seating position.
Good headlamps.
Excellent handbrake.
Ground clearance means I don't have to worry too much about the snow.
Hooks in the back for the shopping.

Features it has that I'm indifferent about:
4x4. In the winter the Bridgestone Blizzaks really didn't give me any confidence, it was sliding about all over the shop. I know this is more down to the tyres and I'd have been better off with proper chunky M+S tyres but it really proved that there not much a 4x4 can do with mediocre tyres that a fwd with chains on can't.
Adjustable cup holders that I've got no plans to put cups in.
Rear seats that fold up behind the fronts. Leaving as much room as the 406 estate has with the rear seats in place. They also remove but reveal so little extra space they may as well not have bothered.
Variable speed intermittent wipers. That either seem to be not slow enough or not fast enough.
A trip computer. That I still didn't figure out how to use.
The sunglasses case in the roof console. I haven't seen a pair of sunglasses shaped like that in years. Nothing else fits in there.

Things I don't like about the RAV but are possibly down to it having done over 120,000 (possibly mostly abused) miles:
Terrible throttle response - it's so laggy that the car is almost impossible to drive smoothly.
Baulky, crunchy gearbox.
The driver's seat might recline, go back and forth and up and down but it feels like something out of a Morris Minor. The passenger seat is much the same.
All the plastic trim on the car seems to be loose, making it sound like it's falling to bits on anything other than a smooth road.
The SqUeEeEeEeAk.

Things I don't like for real:
Cheap looking interior that looks like something you'd expect in a Dacia. Go to the cheapest, tackiest carpet shop you could find, then find their cheapest carpet, you know, the one that looks like fuzzy cardboard - that's what's on the floor of this RAV. The rest of it is similar.
Switchgear that's all over the place, looking like an afterthought.
Laughably small boot.
Those fold up rear seats almost always fail to clip back into place. They'd not seen much use before and one of them was seized so I had to take it indoors to work on it - they weigh an absolute tonne! Also you carry them by the adjustment bar which is about the diameter of a pencil so it very soon starts cutting into your hands. Putting them back in is hard work too.
The plastic on the rear side doors also form part of the rear wheel arches, so when you open one there's a strip of mud both sides of you.
It is impossible to fully clean the back door and window without removing the spare tyre and carrier.
Side and rear steps/running boards - what is the point of them? It's not like you can stand on them with a Tommy gun. The side ones are, however, perfectly positioned to pick up all the crap from the front tyres going, including massive amounts of ice and snow in the winter. They're very close to the sills so quite hard to clean. I realise they were an optional extra but the only reason I didn't take them off & bin them yet is because they might stop damage happening to the actual car. I should probably bin them anyway to save weight.
Door pockets that are designed for things to fall out of.
Weird and expensive light bulbs that are really hard to get to.
The parcel shelf - it has both low and high positions but only seems to fit into the low. If I try and clip it in the high it just falls into the boot but I can't see any damage or anything to account for it. I asked about it on the forum but didn't get any replies.
The driver's seat headrest was giving me neck ache, it doesn't tilt at all, only goes up and down. I tried to push it up high enough to clear my head but it came off in my hands so I turned it backwards. Then I sat in the passenger seat and soon turned that one backwards too.

I can probably think of more to complain about but I think the thing that really, really, pi$$es me off is... it's worth twice as much as my 406 but, in my opinion, isn't even half the car.
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Bloomin ek dont sound good :(

The Rav my mate as got the only rattles where on the Daft plastic cover on the Spare wheel,
isorted that tho, ripped the base out of an old 406 seat and Rammed that in,

Only thing idont like about them is the Wheels look too small :?
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The RAV 4 we had at work had an awkward tail gate - it wouldn't open fully so as not to obscure the rear light cluster (some uk law) apparently there was a modified Toyota hinge which allows it to open fully - the standard one only opes by about 75% making it hard to use.

The Auto box ECU crapped out in the end and used to try engaging Park as you were tazzing along at 50mph :shock: snatchy/jerking/confused gear changes all saw it being traded in. I agree on the interior; bargain basement crap with switches all over the shop :roll: makes me laugh in Jap cars how the have to 'describe' what the switch does.....MIRROR....POWER WINDOW....etc :roll:

To be fair we took that petrol version from 26 to 130K miles with very little engine trouble, well none really.
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It's a silly EU law that says the rear lights must still be visible even with the back door open, so Toyota fit a check strap that stops the door opening more than about 18 inches. People just get the original check strap off Toyota. I'm not sure if it applied to Croatia though as all the RAVs we looked at had one, including this one.

The guy who restuffed the cat on mine said that failing lambdas and cooked cats are fairly common problem because the engine overfuels on start up (it revs to about 2.5k on start up, then settles down to idle after about a minute) which incinerates the air/fuel "lambda", so it's interesting to hear of one that didn't experience this. It's not something I've seen on the forum either (not that I can find stuff easily on there) but there's plenty of stuff about the lambdas failing for no readily apparent reason. Maybe it's too many short journeys with lots of starting from cold, and cars that do lots of long journeys up and down motorways... Hold on, I'm getting a terrible sense of deja vu here :?

Oh, that's reminded me of one of the dislikes - bucket and shim cam followers. I ask you, what modern car still has bucket and shim followers??
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A Fiat van, that's what has bucket and shim tappets - they had one on the ramp when I was there Monday, it had shattered a shim which had then mauled the cam shaft.

Seeing as how this is my general slagging the silly jeep off thread I thought I'd give an update on the squealy brakes, which really had been driving me nuts especially when the wife's in the car and the stereo's verboten. I found the 8th shim! What happened was I had all the bits for the brakes in the box the new pads came in, stuck it on the back seat and then my wife volunteered me to give a lift to a neighbour and the silly cow (the neighbour, not the wife) got in, knocked it on the floor and trampled it :evil: I kind of repaired it and then stuck it in the bag in the back with all my car gear in it, and the shim obviously fell out into the bag 'cos that's where I found it.

SO Monday afternoon it was back down the workshop and back up on the dodgy two-poster. I had to explain about the 8 shim sillyness but Krešo the mechanic reckoned they wouldn't be the problem (can't say I disagree - my D8 had none on the back and never made a sound), much more likely is the lip of rust all round the edges of the disks. Ok, I said, let's have the disks off and pass me the angle grinder. He had a better idea though - it's a 4x4 right? So he got me to start it up and put it in gear while he went for a chisel. The first time it made a horrible clattering noise because the disks are not screwed to the hubs, just relying on the nuts holding the wheels on doing the job, so I got 1 nut each side and wound them all the way on to hold the disks. Then I started it up, stuck it in second and let out the clutch (I was expecting a face full of warning lights but nothing). Once he'd done the rhs he told me to stick it in 4th and give it a little throttle. Aye aye cap'n! After a few moments there was horrible grating noise from the rhs - this thing has no fancy limited slip diffs, viscous couplings or any of that nonsense, it uses the traction control to sense if one wheel is turning faster than the others and apply the brake to that wheel. What had happened was when Krešo started grinding on the l/h disk the car had sensed the r/h side was spinning faster and applied the brakes to it - er, no pads :shock: The noise was the piston rubbing on the disk. Woops :| So I guess if I hadn't used the nuts to hold the disks on it would have pushed the piston all the way out of the caliper. Pop.

Anyway, 2 days later and not a peep from the brakes, however when I started it up this morning I noticed the aux belt is squeaking :roll:
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Come on, you love it really.

Don't you?



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Sorry, I was too busy banging my head against this here wall...
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Oh look - another recall! http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/feature ... llion-cars

Opinion on the forum is Toyota are wonderful for doing this as there haven't been any actual fires or anything and the feeling is other manufacturers wouldn't have bothered :roll: This follows the rear suspension arm recall last month.

Obviously my RAV isn't affected. Personally I reckon Mr. T (as they call him/it) is being ultra-cautious after their reputation took a royal flushing with the throttle pedal thing.
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Bulbs - got engine light & TCRVTSWhatever lights on. Looks like the same sh*t as before. It lasted a year, wonderful :roll:
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:( sorry to hear that steve.
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