brembo

[midsmike]

right do coupe brembo calipers go straight on to a 406 saloon if not what do i have to change

[omega]

iam sure the pipes are diffrent.

[OdinEidolon]

and you have to have 16" wheels.

[mjb]

don't bother - they're not worth it

[midsmike]

can i change the pipes and y ent they worth it they must b better then standered 1s and im putting 18 inch on so should b ok

[mjb]

If you like your brakes expensive, with expensive pads and expensive discs, a lovely loud squeal any time you go near the spongy pedal, constant issues with sticking pistons and pads, then yeah they're great...

[OdinEidolon]

can i change the pipes and y ent they worth it they must b better then standered 1s and im putting 18 inch on so should b ok

Please, please, please, I love your language, don't spoil it!

[midsmike]

well wats the best way to upgrade them then as i already have a spongy pedal

[OdinEidolon]

well wats the best way to upgrade them then as i already have a spongy pedal

Good discs, good pads, stainless steel hose kit, excellent brake fluid. 406 brakes were not the best around I'm sad to admit. Sufficient, and pretty fade resistant, but not sporty.

Brembos are better, more feeling and more braking power, but they are a pita to mantain, as stated above.

[steve_earwig]

Hold on, hold on - this is a 1.9 td right? Mightn't it have the smallest disks (260mm)?

I always thought the 406 brakes were pretty good

[OdinEidolon]

Hold on, hold on - this is a 1.9 td right? Mightn't it have the smallest disks (260mm)?

I always thought the 406 brakes were pretty good

Well, standard. I have some braking data under hand, no good, no bad. Around 42 meters for a full stop from 62mph.

[ally406]

1.9TD has 283mm brakes. I got a set of genuine discs, EBC green stuffs and I think the car stops very well indeed. You can go even further and fit more aggresive pads if you wished. This will allow you to stick with a 15" wheel which will improve handling, ride quality and give you a range of cheaper tyres. 18" wheels are a terrible idea and will increase unsprung weight significantly. Get the rear drums cleaned up and adjusted properly, change and bleed the fluid. Combined with decent discs and pads at the front job should be a good 'un.

I don't know if I'd bother with braided brake lines on a car intended for normal road use. Rubber hoses can expand when the brake fluid is at a very high temperature after prolonged hard braking. Not a situation you are likely to encounter popping down to Tesco.

[midsmike]

thanks for all of your input i have a 2.1 with discs on the rear ive put new discs and pads all round with ferodo pads and bled them all

[OdinEidolon]

thanks for all of your input i have a 2.1 with discs on the rear ive put new discs and pads all round with ferodo pads and bled them all

How much did you spend for discs and pads? Was your brake fluid low? The system may have a small leak if it's so spongy.

[steve_earwig]

thanks for all of your input i have a 2.1 with discs on the rear

My mistake, sorry, the 1.9 is your brother's (damn, my crystal ball needs cleaning....)

ive put new discs and pads all round with ferodo pads and bled them all

How old are the hoses? They tend to get a bit bulgy eventually.