Another bargain!

[plod]

£2571 !!!!
£3k easy I say

£3200 - was it you Waue, who said today you didn't think it would go up anymore? If so, you were right

[waue1978]

£2571 !!!!
£3k easy I say

£3200 - was it you Waue, who said today you didn't think it would go up anymore? If so, you were right

It certainly was. Reckon a couple of people REALLY wanted that car. Personally, I'd rather put in an offer on this:


http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

May not be an Exec, but it's got most of the kit & I do like non-metallic paint.

[ToddM]

Just because of the colour and what you've already done to your estate I wouldn't even consider a swap even though the 2.2 is an excellent diesel. I reckon you should be able to pick one up from a breaker's car and it'd drop straight in besides you'd be able to swap belts, water pump etc. Full and easy service and it'd cost much much less.

[Doggy]

I reckon you should be able to pick one up from a breaker's car and it'd drop straight in besides you'd be able to swap belts, water pump etc. Full and easy service and it'd cost much much less.

You'd need:
engine c/w flywheel, clutch, (starter?), turbo, all the vacuum valves/reservoir/actuators, turbo air piping, turbo & egr throttle systems/heat exchangers,keys, transponder, engine ecu, bsi, engine wiring loom, (clocks too unless you want both mileages added up),
then you need to defap the ecu software & debug at the same time as getting the transplant to work

[waue1978]

I reckon you should be able to pick one up from a breaker's car and it'd drop straight in besides you'd be able to swap belts, water pump etc. Full and easy service and it'd cost much much less.

You'd need:
engine c/w flywheel, clutch, (starter?), turbo, all the vacuum valves/reservoir/actuators, turbo air piping, turbo & egr throttle systems/heat exchangers,keys, transponder, engine ecu, bsi, engine wiring loom, (clocks too unless you want both mileages added up),
then you need to defap the ecu software & debug at the same time as getting the transplant to work

Doggy's spot on there. Most of what's been done to mine (apart from the fortune that's been spent in general maintenance) could easily be swapped over in less than a couple of days if I wanted it anyway.

[ToddM]

Yeah but if you get the engine complete with the gearbox etc. from a breaker you wouldn't need most of those anyway and they can be had for cheap if you can be bothered doing it and have the space/time. I wish I lived on a farm sometimes

[waue1978]

Yeah but if you get the engine complete with the gearbox etc. from a breaker you wouldn't need most of those anyway and they can be had for cheap if you can be bothered doing it and have the space/time. I wish I lived on a farm sometimes

That is where the problem is. I can change wheels, strut brace & interior trim myself. When it comes to engines & other mechanical bits I get it done in a garage & it wouldn't be cheap to get them to do an engine transplant for me. Plus I don't even have a driveway, let alone a farm. Any work that I do is outside the back gate (if I can get parked near it) & I've also got a little boy to consider.

Besides, if I was going to do a transplant, I wouldn't transplant an engine that could be found in another 406 anyway, otherwise it would just be more sensible to get that model instead. I'd look more along the lines of later HDi 16v engines. If you're going to that much trouble, it may as well be something you couldn't get normally.

[plod]

Besides, if I was going to do a transplant, I wouldn't transplant an engine that could be found in another 406 anyway, otherwise it would just be more sensible to get that model instead. I'd look more along the lines of later HDi 16v engines. If you're going to that much trouble, it may as well be something you couldn't get normally.

I concur

It's like years back, when I had my manta

It had a 1.8l family 2 engine in it, whereas the GTE had the CiH engine

As the Astra 16v engine was a family 2 engine also, me, my bro, and a mate summized it shouldn't be too big a deal to get it to fit into the manta, especially as the engine were being put into kit cars, so an exhaust manifold was available off the shelf
Engine mounts came off the 1.8, and I fitted the starter and alternator off the 1.8 so the wiring plugs in my loom could be utilised
Gearbox we just assumed would fit as again it's just one large block family 2 engine to another, and it did
Clutch - I just went up to a motor factors I knew the people in, and they let me look in the clutch specifications and found the 3.0 Monza clutch was a straight fit

It's like, I've always liked the idea of having a V6 diesel 406, although I bet that requires a shed load more work, and I suspect the engines fetch good money
Having said that, an Astra 16v engine was £800 minimum back in the day

I would love to have a project I could do - aproper one that is, as most of the stuff i've done can be done in my parking space, as I too don't have a driveway or garage where I could work

[waue1978]

That Vauxhall 16v engine was a peach though, even by today's standards. My old Cav GSi used to wheelspin in 3rd with all the power from it, but I could still get 25mpg around town & that's about the same as I was getting from a 2005 1.8 Mondeo.

As far as 16v HDi transplants go, Bailes is to blame for sowing that seed in my mind yesterday when he said that there are people saying that the 16v head can be bolted onto my lump. That said though, I won't be looking towards anything like that at the moment. Was contemplating a remap, but Captain Jack said yesterday that his gives a slight vibration if you accelerate hard in 4th or 5th & Doggy has theorized that this would be down to the DMF taking up the slack under the extra load as his 2.2 does the same. Will either be leaving it standard or getting a custom remap to give a little bit more low end power, but mainly to stop it going dead after 3000rpm.

If I've still got it when it needs a new clutch, I may start looking at the different options of solid flywheels & 6 speed boxes etc as I'll already be spending enough in labour anyway, but until then, standard she stays.

[plod]

I remember even with running twin 48 DCOE Webber's I could still achieve 50mpg!!!!!!!!!
Yes, a very nice engine

As for the vibration! Well, guess i'm lucky then as don't have that, and it would seem viable that it is a DMF issue as that's something I don't have on my car

[ToddM]

Wow a 6 speed and a 16V HDI in a 406! That'd be such an epic combo. And as far as the Vauxhall/Opel 16 valve goes.. Kadett 2.0 16V injection Turbo 800 kilos 6 speed off a Vectra C of some sort should give you a rough idea of what my uncle used to thrash to hell a couple of years ago

[FarmerPug]

the jag xj has the pug v6 hdi its rwd setup in a 406 would be fantastic

[rwb]

ooh hello http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... 3410944446

[waue1978]

ooh hello http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... 3410944446

Looks nice (especially the non-ribbed beige leather), but if I was making bold claims in my ad, I'd make sure the claims were true:

.lowest mileage diesel executive on auto trader in the country!

Correction: 3rd lowest mileage Executive diesel:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

That said though, it is tidy & £700 is a very reasonable price as long as it is all well up-together.


Were you planning on replacing your 02 plate with an older model then?

[rwb]

Yeah, that lowest mileage thing is obviously bollocks.

In hindsight, that is my perfect 406. If the HDi went bang tomorrow then that's what I'd be after. The HDi has put in a good performance over 90k and 6 years, but the electrics will kill it eventually, and with the water leak this may be sooner rather than later.

I was planning getting a second 406 to play with -- I'm too nervous to mess about with my daily drive -- but since I moved I don't have space

btw, I was just looking at your strut brace
Hangar18 threw NollingtonHard's 406 round the roundabout and the conclusion we both immediately reached was: must get a strut brace.