Diesel flat spots (aka my tank strainer's full of crap)
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Diesel flat spots (aka my tank strainer's full of crap)
On my search for a little problem with my 2.1td Executive estate, a flat spot between 3000 and 3500 rpm I thought I might take the fuel guage / pickup unit out of the tank and here is what I saw.........
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406 estate, 2.1TD, I fixed her, then part exchanged her for a Mercedes E300TD Avantgarde Estate.
Hmmmm, straight 6 goodness!
Hmmmm, straight 6 goodness!
Re: Before and After
I think she's smoother but I'm not sure at the moment.
406 estate, 2.1TD, I fixed her, then part exchanged her for a Mercedes E300TD Avantgarde Estate.
Hmmmm, straight 6 goodness!
Hmmmm, straight 6 goodness!
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Re: Before and After
Ouch. Now I'm paranoid about my pick up... specially with all the chicken grease I've been putting in there lately O.O
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Re: Before and After
Makes me want to rip mine out now
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Re: Before and After
Have you been running the car on old chip fat ?
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Re: Before and After
Wow! that is really bad
It looks kinda waxy/oily
Certainly would have affected the pick up rate I would say, but if not that's a good bit of maintenance to do anyway
It looks kinda waxy/oily
Certainly would have affected the pick up rate I would say, but if not that's a good bit of maintenance to do anyway
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Re: Before and After
I bought her with the intent of running on veg oil, but the Lucas Pump is no good for that so only normal diesel.
406 estate, 2.1TD, I fixed her, then part exchanged her for a Mercedes E300TD Avantgarde Estate.
Hmmmm, straight 6 goodness!
Hmmmm, straight 6 goodness!
Re: Before and After
Have you read the post about the 2.1 pump change, it needs updateing now as he's almost there.poddack wrote:I bought her with the intent of running on veg oil, but the Lucas Pump is no good for that so only normal diesel.
With a Bosch pump it'll love veg oil.
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Re: Before and After
A 'P' reg 306 diesel passed me in the street the other day - followed by a strange smell of cooking
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Re: Before and After
I'm going to wait unit I get an old BMW with the M51 engine before I faff with veg oil again.
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Hmmmm, straight 6 goodness!
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Re: Before and After
poddack wrote:I'm going to wait unit I get an old BMW with the M51 engine before I faff with veg oil again.
Ooooo, I see, nice engine that but not that economical on 'Diesel' I understand............
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Re: Before and After
My bro's 306 1.9TD ground to a halt today with a similar problem.
We noticed the priming bulb collapsing due to vacuum, so limped it home & withdrew the strainer. This one was a LOT worse than poddacks, the gauze was completely invisible and the layer of gunbe was getting on for 1/4" thick
Easy job though, only about half an hour start to finish
Unsurprisingly, it goes a bit better now
We noticed the priming bulb collapsing due to vacuum, so limped it home & withdrew the strainer. This one was a LOT worse than poddacks, the gauze was completely invisible and the layer of gunbe was getting on for 1/4" thick
Easy job though, only about half an hour start to finish
Unsurprisingly, it goes a bit better now
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Re: Before and After
Fantastic, looks like a routine job to do when you buy one second hand.
406 estate, 2.1TD, I fixed her, then part exchanged her for a Mercedes E300TD Avantgarde Estate.
Hmmmm, straight 6 goodness!
Hmmmm, straight 6 goodness!
Re: Before and After
will my 2000 406 hdi90 have the pump filter and will it just lift out from under the seat?
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Re: Before and After
Why wait for a BM when you have a bettor veg engine in the 406 !poddack wrote:I'm going to wait unit I get an old BMW with the M51 engine before I faff with veg oil again.
All you need to do is get rid of that Lucas and install a nice Bosch pump then it will give you less problems than an M51engine (they mave isues with the intank pump and the VP37 / 36 injuction pumps blow seals when they get a bit older).
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BTW a build up of crud on the tank strainer is not uncomon on a diesel with a few miles on it.
406 2.1TD GLX estate
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brew my own biodiesel
http://www.shorewasteoil.xtreemhost.com/