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omega wrote:to me if you have a need then you not a scrounger
people who are scroungers in my view are people that can work that wont.
i dont work at the moment but i dont sign on because i sell a few 406 parts,i do a bit of agency work,i look after my 4 year old instead of paying 130 pounds in child care.my mrs works as well so claiming is a night mare and as il only get about 60 pounds a week its not worth it and wont get no other help as we have our own house.how these people can get so much money out of the system is beyond me when ive worked for over 30 years and can only get £60 and for that i have to fill in so many forms its unreal.
now i suppose if i go to france throw my passport away sneak back into england paint myself a diffrent colour, start ranting about another religion il have a 5 bedroom house loads of money before you can say p45.
Isee your point mate.
iused to look at things in that way, iwas totaly wrong,
but theres good and bad in all people,regardless of Colour

ihave alot of friends whos parents are from another country they are born here and follow there parents tradition,
the culture is too look after each other ,
many wont claim benefits, or have council houses, there can be anything upto 12 per household all wages go into pot = buys other houses propertys,

so realy we carnt blaim them for taking up housing resources, as many buy there own,

iwished my parents and family wouid club together and buy me a house 8)
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You're genuinely ill, therefore entitled to your benefits.

I've seen lazy folks, folks who fake a limp to get a doctors note and a brand new DLA motability car, ones who pump out kids for the benefits then let them loose on the streets to terrorise the neighbours. Theyre the ones that annoy me.

You have a genuine reason, so you should get all you are entitled to.

I'm similar to highlander, work in IT. Not as well paid as people think, an is more of a mental thing than any physical challenge (apart from installing and moving server racks and UPS batteries....)
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I share everyone else's frustration with a system which seems to penalise the genuine, hard-working members of society while giving an easy ride to the scroungers among us. I understand your predicament too, Scotty. I can also see the merit and practical difficulty surrounding Highlander's suggestion, but know how hard it can be to make a breakthrough into viable working from home, no matter how good you are at IT, (for example).

Mrs Doggy had a stroke in 2000, at age 42 and hasn't worked since. She learned to walk again, albeit with a stick and eventually recovered the ability to do most things, though much more slowly, with far grerater effort and frequently with considerable discomfort. She can't afford to be far from a loo either....

Because I have a reasonably well-paid job and she isn't 'disabled enough', she gets virtually no benefits, (about £38 a fortnight and a blue badge), but we count ourselves lucky as many others are much worse off.

We have tried many times to find her something she can do, as much for the benefit of meeting and interacting with more people as for earning a crust, but without success. It's hard to describe the damage something like this does to your self esteem - she gets tongue-tied and anxious in unfamliar circumstances, her short term memory can be poor and her literacy and numeracy are badly affected. The irony of it is that she has done a terrific job of bringing up 3 kids and running the household while I was elsewhere trying to pay for it all, yet no-one will trust her with running the till in a charity shop, even on a voluntary basis.

So no, I don't think you're taking advantage of the system. It's there to support people, like you, with genuine need. It galls me that others seem to be able to manipulate it to their own ends, but that doesn't mean people who need support should feel uncomfortable about it.

Don't give up either. There will be something you can do, but I recognise that finding that something can be damned difficult.
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Doggy wrote:I share everyone else's frustration with a system which seems to penalise the genuine, hard-working members of society while giving an easy ride to the scroungers among us. I understand your predicament too, Scotty. I can also see the merit and practical difficulty surrounding Highlander's suggestion, but know how hard it can be to make a breakthrough into viable working from home, no matter how good you are at IT, (for example).

Mrs Doggy had a stroke in 2000, at age 42 and hasn't worked since. She learned to walk again, albeit with a stick and eventually recovered the ability to do most things, though much more slowly, with far grerater effort and frequently with considerable discomfort. She can't afford to be far from a loo either....

Because I have a reasonably well-paid job and she isn't 'disabled enough', she gets virtually no benefits, (about £38 a fortnight and a blue badge), but we count ourselves lucky as many others are much worse off.

We have tried many times to find her something she can do, as much for the benefit of meeting and interacting with more people as for earning a crust, but without success. It's hard to describe the damage something like this does to your self esteem - she gets tongue-tied and anxious in unfamliar circumstances, her short term memory can be poor and her literacy and numeracy are badly affected. The irony of it is that she has done a terrific job of bringing up 3 kids and running the household while I was elsewhere trying to pay for it all, yet no-one will trust her with running the till in a charity shop, even on a voluntary basis.

So no, I don't think you're taking advantage of the system. It's there to support people, like you, with genuine need. It galls me that others seem to be able to manipulate it to their own ends, but that doesn't mean people who need support should feel uncomfortable about it.

Don't give up either. There will be something you can do, but I recognise that finding that something can be damned difficult.
That cant be easy mate my cousins mam inlaw is going through something similar herself, albeit she's about 20 years older and from what i can gather she's not coping quite as well as mrs doggy... Life is a git one day we're thankful not to be in some other peoples possitions (say for instance illnesses and all this flooding going on) the next day your back to thinking about your own downfalls like what the fook did i do to deserve all this?

Update on my situation is getting funnier by the day.
Latest is the letter from the tribunal service dated 1st June, it turned up yesterday and i have 14 days to reply from that date :roll: so it needs to go off asap but my doctor who i went to see today says she's waiting for the hospital to give her their report so she can do me a medical report.

A report from the hospital appointment i went to 3 weeks ago, So my doctor is stuttering and my local citizens advice dont have funding to back me up i'm a nervous wreck at the best of times and i have to stand up in court with no backing to fight my case knowing full well they'll only recognise my condition for a year because my wife works so i'll lose my benifits that i didnt want to be on in the first place anyway.

If i had a passport i'd sneak out and lose it then sneak back in like someone else suggested :lol:
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scotty

local citizens advice are a waste of time mate,
there ok for people who dont know how to use the internet, most of the infomation they use give out they get off the web,
years ago they used to be good for helping people solve problems theyd ring up companys etc and solve problems and take away stress for the person
things have changed now theyre not what they used to be altho its a voluntary service,

Afriend of mine is going to a Tribunaral service next week,
They took his incapacity benefit off him and put him something else, so hes 60 or 70 quid a week worse off,
what baffles him most is, theyve not touched his dla altho they rekon hes fit for work,

he carnt walk but he can use his hands so they say he can work at a desk,
This countrys Furked, What gets me is there trying to send people back to work that are prone for ilness,

no employer is going to entertain them, its all down to this bastid cameron,
Hes been getting to many ideas off the americans, one of which is going to be food stamps
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Funnily enough i'm waiting for the cab to ring now to talk me through the tribunal form i need to send back asap, i'm not sure on this but i think you can get dla whilst working mate which makes no sense because the D in dla means disabled last i checked :roll: so if you lose incapacity surely you lose that too?

It's all a big farse i'm also losing over £80 a fortnight it's a big worry when your on low income anyway to lose that money and i think i will lose the lot because reading hospital report last night and one doctors report from a year ago it looks like i'm up sh*t creek and all that is because i've suffered for years in silence unless it's got bad enuff to put me in hospital.

The first question on the tribunal has a tick box that says if you do not want to continue with your appeal please tick here..... i'm so tempted to tick it and be done with it... for the good of my family and my health it's a nightmare here :(

If it wernt for my wife and parents telling me to keep fighting i'd say balls to it. :evil:
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Iagree with them mate,
keep fighting your case, dont let them win they like taking peoples dla and stuff off people even if they know they have to hand it back on apeal,

look it up on the Net,

did you know they make big money out of apeals ?
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lozz wrote:
did you know they make big money out of apeals ?
Dont suprise me one bit mate a woman i know told me in February that the person representing her said they have a party for everyong they knock off too :roll: i'm on the dwp forum now and still waiting for the cab but if he dont hurry up i'll have to just fill it in myself.

I'm not sure if i gotta do a covering letter explaining my doctor chasing up the hospital before she can do my report? i'm getting closer to ticking that box tho lol.
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Dwp forum?

never knew they had them can ijoin?
id more than likely get a Ban so not worth me joining anyway :lol:
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lozz wrote:Dwp forum?

never knew they had them can ijoin?
id more than likely get a Ban so not worth me joining anyway :lol:
:lol: It's not they're own it's one set up by people who've been royally screwed by them, i think they had a forum shut down a few months back i'm not sure of the details though.... I'm a bit scared to post on there you never know who's watching. :lol:
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send us the link to the forum scotty,

itl be a laugh honest :wink:

ive googled dwp .. it just comes up with dirty womens pictures etc etc,
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lozz wrote:
ive googled dwp .. it just comes up with dirty womens pictures etc etc,
:lol: not seen that will have to google it might take my mind off this crap. :lol:

http://dwpexamination.org/
There you go fella... Btw their all pissed off on there just like us just dont get banned or mention me i've just posted on there but only cos the cab still aint phoned and i need info. :?
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That link is not havin none of it mate,
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lozz wrote:That link is not havin none of it mate,
Try www in front of it maybe? it's a link i got from their email when the old forum got shut surely it's not been made for people already registered because it takes me to it even if i'm not signed in?
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ive just joined another one,
just waiting to see if they let me in, :supafrisk:
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