type d8 or d9

[turbolag]

PS, sorry for the appalling typing. something wrong with this keyboard. Must be the D9 version... ;)

[steve_earwig]

at least you have one - spilled coffee through mine

[steve_earwig]

All better now!!

[mjb]

Comparing D8 cloth to a simlair model D9 and the difference is evident.

D8 Coupe right-hand front cloth where your arse goes:
896361 Dark Blue
896362 Thunderstorm Grey

D9 Coupe right-hand front cloth where your arse goes:
896361 Dark Blue
896362 Thunderstorm Grey

They're the same part!

I am well qualified to comment on the thickness, weight, density and apparent durability of materials. The parcel shelf is the bestcomparison as it's a simple structre - the D8 is far thicker, heavier, and presumably more expensive, and the sum of all these little differences makes the D8 feel quiter andmore solid, as attested to by Dai's impressions.

D8 Coupe parcel shelf: 8342T4
D9 Coupe parcel shelf: 8342T4

They're the same part!

The door cards, parcel shelf etc were thicker material on the D8 and this helps create a less noisy and rattly interior abbience.

There's no difference between D8 and D9 coupe door cards besides the extra colour options

There are big differences. Aside from the different shapes for the switchger, and the different mounting methods used for attaching the plastic wood trim, the covering material is heavier. The D8's material is also less likely to become detached from the door card itself and leave little 'bubbles' in the fabric around the inside contours. I have still have a motley collection of various D8 and D9 trim and if you're ever up this way feel free to drop in for a nosey - coffee on the house. My last 406 was a D9 so it was with great interest that I had a very thorough examination of Leopolds D8 yesterday while working on it and the 'perception' of solidity that comeswith the heavier guage cloth and materials is one of greater solidity over the D9. No doubt whatsoever about it.

D8 Coupe cloth driver's side door card in Hurricane Grey: 9314C2
D9 Coupe cloth driver's side door card in Hurricane Grey: 9314C2

They're the SAME PART!

D8 Coupe passenger switchgear: 6552QX Drivers switchgear: 6552QW
D9 Coupe passenger switchgear: 6552QX Drivers switchgear: 6552QW

Even the fasteners used in the engine bay were better on the D8.

What fasteners? As far as I can tell the engine bay of my D9 coupe is EXACTLY the same as my D8 saloon's was apart from the uprated top engine mount and the different shaped bonnet+slam panel

Er, the fasteners that you can see that hold everything together, hold reservoirs to inner wings, cam covers to engine top, that kind of thing.

D8 ES9J4 cambelt covers: 0320K0 0320K1 0320Q8 0320Q7 0320Q9. Spacer: 032316 Screws: 690568
D9 ES9J4 cambelt covers: 0320K0 0320K1 0320Q8 0320Q7 0320Q9. Spacer: 032316 Screws: 690568

I'll tell you what has changed... the ES9J4 top engine mount. They changed it to one MUCH more substantial on the D9...

[flashfloyd]

I have a W reg.(march 2000)LX HDi 90....so,D9?there does seem to be a hell of a lot of variations....you can tell I've been to a few scrapyards recently!

[highlander]

Yours will be a D9 - the HDi engines were never fitted to the D8 (though some D8 owners have retro-fitted an HDi to their car)

Also, the D9 came in late on in the year 1999. My car is one of the early D9s (some D8s are V reg, some D9s are V reg).

[cardaft]

Very interesting thread, i had been wondering what the D8/D9 thing was about.

Its very easy to spot a D9 though, coloured lines in the back of the saloon realr lights, crome strips in the bumper inserts and clear front lights whith a slightly more aggressive front end.

[mjb]

just to confuse you, the chrome trim came in 1998 (well into D8 territory) on *some* cars

[Captain Jack]

To be honest, I haven't noticed my D8 to be any sturdier than my current D9. The D8 may be simpler and give the feel of being better put together but to me, actually the D9 feels better. Virtually no squeaks or rattles and is quieter on the road.

Wouldn't mind soundproofing it a bit more but that's after I've replaced all the other parts that need changing

[cardaft]

I know its a little off topic, but since its been mentioned ... how are 406s at motorway speed, sound wise? Are they as refined as most big cars. Im still looking for one and have not yet driven one at motorway speeds.

[highlander]

I used to drive a Mk.1 Clio 1.2, traded it in for part-ex on the 406 last November.

The 406 at 70 MPH is like the Clio was at 30. I used to have to shout over the noise of the engine on the Clio; with the 406 I can actually have a conversation with someone sitting next to me.

The most noise you should hear is wind and tyre noise; Peugeot did a great job dampening down the noise of the engine, fans, and pumps. I find the passenger compartment to be a very quiet and comfortable place to be.

[cardaft]

Good to hear, thanks very much

[Bailes1992]

This is interesting.
My Uncles down tommorow and He's got a D9 HDi Rapier so might be worth me spending some time comparing them both his and my D8 D-Turbo quality wise. Shame I can't take mine out at the moment as my indicators catch fire

[205pete]

I read this with interest as the guy I bought my D8 off also has a D9 and he reckoned he preferred the D8.

My D8's driver's door seal seems to give way and let air through at 100 mph. Did they fix that on the D9?

[PeteB]

Had previously thought of 'early' and 'late', now I know better! My last 406, '98 1.9 td LXS estate was brilliant which is why it stayed for over 6 years. Am now running (nearly a year now) an '02 1.8 Rapier and have to say it's not a patch on the old one. Not a huge fan of the engine, but that's my fault for being too tight to pay for a nice torquey diesel! But there are other things, parked next to the old one, plain to see it sits lots higher, the 'tall' suspension also seems softer so not so good in corners. The steering is lighter and has much less feel and it took me ages to get used to the positively vauge cable gearchange.
The whole car does not feel so well put together as the old one, as if it needs a weekend of going around and tightening every nut, bolt and screw before something falls off! (HPI check, not a badly repaired write off!)
You may now be thinking 'why the hell did he buy this car?' well I thought it was just that I was so used to the old one and I did fall prey to 'shiny car syndrome'. Also I was skint and it was by far the best big estate car in budget. Don't get me wrong, it does what I need perfectly well (apart from not doing 50mpg) and will stay until funds improve - it's a damn good workhorse.
Anyone else had similar thoughts or is it me?

EDIT; Had I actually looked and seen there was more than one page on this subject my post would have been slightly different and I would not feel quite so stupid.