aghhh. which model

[annie]

looking for a 406 estate deisel. would like an auto but are they as reliable as a manaual, inherent problems?
also so many engines. is the 2.2hdi a good choice in auto form or too complicated? maybe a 2.0hdi 90/110 in manual is more reliable?
would like a higher spec like gtx or exexuctive but only like the cream leather. any advice always welcome

[Welly]

There's not many Auto's (slushmatic's ) out there and not may on here either. No-one really ever complains that their Auto is no good though really. The main problem with Auto's is that owners don't have the fluid changed and this leads to trouble especially around the 10 year mark.

There were 'peugeot' auto box complaints a while back to do with poor gear-change and I don't think they were regarded as a particularly 'good' auto box in general.

There's usually plenty of 'exec' models around with heated peeled-cow seats but rear seat passengers will be slipping about a lot. The front seats though are a dream to be fair. A nice compromise are the last few S and SE models with half-leather and aluminium dash inserts etc, quite a nice spec.

2.2's are very good but complex as standard. They have a dodgy emissions control system which can make for a huge second-hand bargain and then there are ways of getting rid of all the stuff very cheaply and then no more troubles.

HDi 90's are nice a simple but won't break any records in terms of performance.

HDi 110's are more lively but can suffer worn clutches and flywheels. The 110 was the most popular choice.

To be honest you'd need figure out what you need the car for, if it will be fully loaded and pounding the motorways then the 90bhp is lacking as standard but absolutely fine with a cheapish re-map to 120bhp. All the models have there pro's and con's the scariest of which (on paper) is the 2.2 but as I said some club members can help with lots of info so I would not be put off one of those.

Overall I'd go for the overall condition and plenty of history rather than trying to pick a certain model, for example I would definitely buy a 90bhp in fine condition over something else and then have it remapped to suit my needs. Similarly a decent 2.2 should not be passed at given the reasons above.

I hope this helps.

[Doggy]

As Welly says, auto's are few and far between. I suggest you have a good look at the mpg figures too, the auto box seems to have a disproportionate effect on 406's. We've had one or two owners on here struggling to better 30 mpg. My 2.2 is currently averaging 51/52.

Both my 2.2 executives came with cream leather, (which I like) and matching carpets, (which are a nightmare to keep clean).

If you want full leather, it has to be an executive. The very rare SRi and late model SE's had black half-leather trim. None of these came with the HDi 90 engine - has to be a 110 or 2.2.

They're all good engines, manual gearbox problems are very rare. With so few auto's, none of us know much about them.

All 406's are good mile eaters, 2.2's with cruise control are, (in my personal opinion), the business.

[annie]

131514806281 seen this on ebay. looks nice but whats the ride going to be like as lowered a little with bigger wheels but nice spec and colours. 2.2 manual. says remapped and no dpf issues. will this dpf delete pass an mot next year. will it produce spurios management lights etc.
had a few 406 beforeand liked the smooth ride.
also seen this 121662359857 basic spec but write uplooks good.

[annie]

supposed to be looking for estates but just seen this. maybe 2 46 instead. love that colour

[highlander]

If you wanted a petrol model, you might find a V6 available in saloon, estate, or Coupe form. The V6 engines were available in manual or automatic, with the automatics being a ZF gearbox, which is apparently excellent in comparison with the Peugeot box that was fitted to all other 406 autos.

The manual gearboxes are actually pretty good.

[dirtydirtydiesel]

looking for a 406 estate deisel. would like an auto but are they as reliable as a manaual, inherent problems?
also so many engines. is the 2.2hdi a good choice in auto form or too complicated? maybe a 2.0hdi 90/110 in manual is more reliable?
would like a higher spec like gtx or exexuctive but only like the cream leather. any advice always welcome

I can't comment on auto's , I hate them but if that's your bag check out the for sale board

[annie]

that car looks great. wary of v short mot.

[annie]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

saw this while looking at estates. very nice colours. found a local estate 90hp hdi on ebay for £850 and says has had new cambelthttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121662359857? ... EBIDX%3AIT

[annie]

what does the forum think to modded cars.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-PEUGEOT- ... 1e9ee4b009
nice spec but dpf gone. will this pass an mot like it?

[GingerMagic]

Hi Annie, welcome.

The black estate looks a nice motor, the 2.2Hdi with no DPF is a route many 406 owners ( and coupe owners ) have gone down with no ramifications at the moment, the only engine management lights are ones not relating to the DPF. The MOT is getting more strict for DPF equipped cars still having them fitted but more so on cars produced after 2008, I believe. Some have simply 'emptied out' the DPF container so everything looks in place when its MOT time

The black car is also a semi-mux, which means it have enough ECUs and sensors etc to make it run nicely and give you luxuries like electric seats, but not enough ECUs to be problematic - which is a good thing.

If a modified ( simplified? ) 2.2Hdi has been done properly it should serve you with great reliability, lots of oomph for going up hills with a car full, and still get around 40mpg.

There is no auto option for the 2.2Hdi in a 406, only in a Citroen C5 with the same engine. The Hdi 110 comes with a slushmatic, the V6 has an excellent auto box if this is your want.

Whichever car style/engine/gearbox you choose there should be enough people here to help you keep your purchase on the road

[annie]

this place is brilliant. ask a quaestion and get an informed answer. thanks so much. tempted by the coupe for a weekend blast around. anyone know anything about coupes.
annie

[jonsowman]

Biased opinion: the coupes are great You get all of the reliability and comfort of the 406 platform combined with the Pininfarina styling. They are still outstanding motorway cruisers. There are some sacrifices of course - only 4 seats (but rears are surprisingly comfy), large doors which make car parks a pain, and the odd component which hasn't been adequately uprated from the saloon/estate (I'm looking at you, check straps).

In engine terms, everything you could want here: http://www.406coupeclub.org/Coupe_Engines.asp

If you want a diesel, your only choice is the 2.2 HDi in 2001 models onwards, which as has been said, is a fantastic engine. There is a lot of love for the DW12 both here and over at the Coupe Club - our DW12 estate is now on 234,000 miles and still runs beautifully. If you want a petrol, then you have more choice, and each of them have their advantages. None of them are known to be particularly bad or unreliable; if looked after, they'll all do many miles with no issues. The V6s are quick and come with lovely Brembo brakes (as did some of the earlier HDis), but they're not exactly economical

[annie]

im tempted to look at the coupe above as a weekend car for me and hubby. 160k though but 2.2 petrol so should be nippy.

the red estate is localaswell so will look at though in next few days. the black gtx estate looks the business though

[jonsowman]

I saw that one on Autotrader a while back, it's been on for a few weeks. It looks absolutely mint for 160k, the interior is excellent. Better than a lot of 100k cars I've seen!