No DPF? be hauled over the coals.....

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No DPF? be hauled over the coals.....

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Just read this on the interweb so it must be true:

the Department for Transport document entitled ‘Diesel particulate filters: guidance note’, Published September 24, 2013, states:

“DPF removal has both legal and social implications.

“It is an offence under the Road vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations (Regulation 61a(3))1 to use a vehicle which has been modified in such a way that it no longer complies with the air pollutant emissions standards it was designed to meet.

Removal of a DPF will almost invariably contravene these requirements, making the vehicle illegal for road use.”

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Its one thing putting me off modern diesels having to spend £1000+ on a steel tube with some pottery inside is a joke, especially as its not good for the engine.
Will the mot centre have a specific test to check if it actually functions?
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It would be interesting to know whether MoT stations get an indicator to whether a car should or shouldn't have one?

Even if they know it should how could they test it's complete? on my 2.2 it's clearly visible up on the ramps to check for any obvious modification but the 307 has it buried between the engine and the rads behind the mother of all heat shields.

Come to think of it if you fitted a 110 exhaust to a 136 engine would the tester even know? (assuming it fits of course)
My first D8 had a cat and my second didn't being an early 96 model, never even got asked about it on an MoT.
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I just passed my mot no problems (307) without it. The gutted can is still in place so it looks standard.
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It's simply a visual check. At the same time they brought in the MOT rules regarding DPF's they also started checking for CAT's too!

My CAT was cut open and the insides removed. Although you can see where the CAT was cut open and gutted the MOT tester never batted an eyelid. Must admit I'm not particularly happy about having a big open box in the exhaust. I am considering getting a new downpipe made by an exhaust fabricator with some sort of fake CAT in it. Just a box with a straight pipe through it. Probably cost me £100-£150 I'd imagine.

I also seen in the newspaper about the Government planning to fine diesel drivers for their harmful NOx emissions. It's nice to know that the Government who spent years convincing us all to drive diesels is now thinking of fining us because they aren't as green as they first thought.
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Modern Diesels are the equivalent of making you eat your own sh*t, for that reason I'm out.
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All of which merely confirms my opinion that a nice condition pre dpf 406 diesel is a cracking car to own.
What I'll get when they become to rare, goodness only knows.
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When was the DPF introduced onto the 406?
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According to servicebox a few late 110's got one but I don't think there are many on the road, 2.2's have them.
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+1 no-one's ever seen a dpf on a 110 406 AFAIK, but they did crop up on 110 HDi C8's 807's 307's and so on.

In my experience, all respond well to kinetic optimisation. :wink:
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Welly wrote:“It is an offence under the Road vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations (Regulation 61a(3))1 to use a vehicle which has been modified in such a way that it no longer complies with the air pollutant emissions standards it was designed to meet.

Removal of a DPF will almost invariably contravene these requirements, making the vehicle illegal for road use.”
Ah, I've been looking for that, ta.

And I wonder what insurers make of such modifications?

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All 2.2s had a FAP.
Peugeot say some late 110s had a FAP but nobody has ever seen one.

And my HDi90 had a bloody FAP and nobody can bloody work out why. It was an odd car that HDi90.
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