subs in an estate

[jasonfreeborn]

i have changed the door speakers for jbl and the tweeters. my next thing to do is wire up my subs i have 2 vibe blackair 2 12" subs in boxes powerd by a 3000w amp and power cap do you think it will sound ok in a estate ive never had an estate before so not sure what ts like

[lozz]

i have changed the door speakers for jbl and the tweeters. my next thing to do is wire up my subs i have 2 vibe blackair 2 12" subs in boxes powerd by a 3000w amp and power cap do you think it will sound ok in a estate ive never had an estate before so not sure what ts like

yup shouid sound ok mate,

throw some prodigy in and watch the pannels in the car rattle

[jamjar1383]

i have changed the door speakers for jbl and the tweeters. my next thing to do is wire up my subs i have 2 vibe blackair 2 12" subs in boxes powerd by a 3000w amp and power cap do you think it will sound ok in a estate ive never had an estate before so not sure what ts like

yup shouid sound ok mate,

throw some prodigy in and watch the pannels in the car rattle

i'll let u know if i ever finish my build

[Gary406]

yes it will sound ok. but with the rear of an estate being so big and open you do loose sound pressure
even in a saloon you loose sound.

the best possible car for audio is a hatchback

[StevieboyTD]

Why on earth would you put a power cap in the system? They're designed to flatten your battery and nothing else!

[Gary406]

me ?

nah they dont flatten the battery . ive had mine full volume many times with engine not running..

a power cap only works when the power supply suffers with voltage drops.
so it only works at high volume levels, and does nothing when volume is low...

ive always had a power cap never once had a battery problem with it in...

it keeps enough juice flowing to the amp powering the subs only when the car battery cant keep up.

[Gary406]

as ive said before tho on this forum power caps is a subject i stay away from.

theres many different views about them . sum people like them sum people dont..

the fact is they make no difference what so ever to the sound . but they do supply the system with extra power when needed.

my cap has LEDs on and they flash and pulse when the cap is in use.. when the volume is low they never flash .
turn the volume high and they start to flash dedecting voltage drops coming from the main battery .

[jasonfreeborn]

thanx for the advice im going to start next week i got to get an amp wireing kit first im looking at 0 gage as im running 2 amps

[jamjar1383]

thanx for the advice im going to start next week i got to get an amp wireing kit first im looking at 0 gage as im running 2 amps

u wont nees 0 awg unless ur running silly power, 4 will be fine and i know a place that sells awsome wiring kits

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWAX:IT

same one i got, its got everything u need,powers up 2400 wrms

[Gary406]

£29.99 for a 4 gauge kit ? seriously ?

autoleads essentials , perfect kits .. less than half that cost .....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUTOLEADS-4-GAUGE ... 563fceabc8

but i agree with jamjar you definately dont need 0 gauge. i have 2 of autoleads kits baought from that ebay seller.
but with upgraded RCA leads . i use stinger RCA leads....

[Gary406]

powers up 2400 wrms

for 2400rms you would need 0 gauge .

[Gary406]

thanx for the advice im going to start next week i got to get an amp wireing kit first im looking at 0 gage as im running 2 amps

it depends what power that amps can do. real RMS watts not music power watts .
my 2nd amp that runs the components and 6x9s is only 60watts RMS per channel .
i only use 8 gauge power cable on that amp (not changed it to the other 4 gauge)
because there is no point..

60 watts rms x4 is my 2nd amp = about 800 watts in music power (we call them mickey mouse watts)
300 watts rms x2 is my 1st amp = about 3000 mickey mouse watts

always look at the RMS power and ignore were it says 4000 watts ..
beleive you me 50 watts RMS is a lot ..

what amps are you using ?

[jamjar1383]

£29.99 for a 4 gauge kit ? seriously ?

autoleads essentials , perfect kits .. less than half that cost .....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUTOLEADS-4-GAUGE ... 563fceabc8

but i agree with jamjar you definately dont need 0 gauge. i have 2 of autoleads kits baought from that ebay seller.
but with upgraded RCA leads . i use stinger RCA leads....

compare the spec

the one i posted

* Transparent Blue 4GA Power Cable (5M)
* Transparent Platinum 4GA Ground Cable (1M)
* Transparent Blue 8GA Power Cable (3M)
* Transparent Platinum 8GA Ground Cable (2M)
* Blue Remote Cable (5M)
* Transparent Blue Triple Shielded Interconnect Audio Cable (2x5M)
* Transparent Blue Speaker Cable (6M)
* Platinum ANL Fuse Holder
* Two Way Platinum AGU Fused Distribution Block
* Four Way Platinum Ground Distribution Block
* Platinum Battery Terminal
* Platinum ANL Fuse - AGU Fuse
* Ring Terminal
* Spade Terminal
* Butt Connector
* Self Tapping Screw
* Convoluted Tubing
* Cable Tie
* Grommet


the one u posted

* 5m 4 gauge CCA power cable
* 1m 4 gauge CCA earth cable
* 5m RCA lead
* 5m 18 gauge remote lead
* 6m 0.75mm speaker cable
* AGU fuse holder with 80A fuse
* 1m convulated tubing
* All terminals and fixings
plus he's said he's running more than 1 amp so he'll need the extra kit

if he use's the one i posted the he'll only have one power cable running through the car rather than 2.

[Gary406]

if hes running 2 amps its better to run 2 power cable .

your kit has a 4 gauge cable split into a block .... not ideal really..

plus 2 of them kits i posted is still cheaper than your kit

2 power cables is better than 1 thats split ....

plus there is plenty room for 2x 4awg cables ...

[jasonfreeborn]

well i got the bigger amp wire kit. thanx for all your help i just got to sort out and get it all installed some time