406 PH2 Electrical faults.

Talk about the 406's electrical system, what wires do what, how to add extra functionality, etc.

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Re: 406 PH2 Electrical faults.

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FromDK wrote:Not sure which one you are thinking about?
This one
steve_earwig wrote:http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... op#p286970 - I guess that's a semi if he can hear the relay.
Looks like it's the wiper motor.
FromDK wrote:I can hear a relay for the front wipers, but isnt just the one on/in the BSI?
Both relays seem to be in the BSI on your semi-mux, they moved to the engine fuse panel on full-mux (which is also mux on those)
FromDK wrote:I'm pretty sure all D9's uses BSI to control fronwipers
Yes, but as above, the actual relays moved.
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Re: 406 PH2 Electrical faults.

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Thanks for the reply mate.


I'm gonna try and change the wiper motor some time this month to see if it would help.

Thanks alot for all the answers guys.

Any ideas on the seat heating? They are both a goner, so i though it would be electrical too? Or are they just prone to fail?

I'm gonna have the A/C fixed soon, and the handbrake needs a new cable as i pulled too hard the other day, appearently ( -.- ), but after that, i have a very good conditioned car which runs really good.

I only paid 850£ with winter and summer Michellin tyres, that is REALLY cheap here in Denmark.

When it's fixed, i might be able to sell it for around 2.500£, not that i would think of selling it, this is my second vehicle for those long distances to work, my other car is a lovely Mondeo ST200 - Thats the fun one, but also expensive to drive, this Peugeot does 7.5L / 100km at about 125 - 130 km/t, it's really impressive actually compared to the Mondy which does around 450 maybe 470km on a full 60l tank.
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Re: 406 PH2 Electrical faults.

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steve_earwig wrote:
Both seat heaters have no functionability. (The light turns but nothing happens)
The elements do eventually burn out, they can be repaired (there's a how to on the coupe club forum) but it's not for the faint hearted. As before, a test on the supply wires might tell you what to look at. The connectors are the 2-way light brown normal-sized ones.
I seem to have made a complete mess of the quotes in the post so maybe you missed this. Also test into the seats for continuity. I "think" there are thermostats on the elements in the seats so if you have to open them up maybe these would be worth looking at first. Anyway, hopefully it'll be something easy like a faulty relay or a blown fuse.

Out with this much linked pic again:
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The connector is the brown 2-pin between the big black and orange which you might not have if you don't have memory seas but the heater connectors will be the same - do not test anything else as you might set off airbags or pretensioners!
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Re: 406 PH2 Electrical faults.

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Seat heater elements can be repaired if you're lucky.
I've done it twice to my driver's seat now. (two independent breaks) The element tends to separate in the base of the seat, not the backrest, as it's the base that gets the most punishment. It's a bit scary to remove the leather, but it doesn't have to wholly come off. The seat has two elements....one in the base and one in the backrest....they're wired in series, so when one fails, you lose the lot.

There is a little thermostat in there too and it's fitted at the rear of the seat base just under the leather (at the back where the leather disappears down under the backrest) You can feel for it under the leather.

As long as the indicator light in your heater switch comes on when you press it, then it's receiving power ok from the engine running relay. If you can put a multimeter on the pins of the brown connector in the pic above (NOT the airbag one!!!) you should read about 2.5 ohms for a cold element. Infinity means you have an open circuit....ie, time to peel the leather back..... :roll:

A link to seat heater repair here (you have to be registered though) and also shows that thermostat.
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Re: 406 PH2 Electrical faults.

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THanks alot! Yea i figured the qoutes thingie, now worries.


Also thanks for the information on reparing the seat..


A couple of days ago i was fiddling with the interior-light in the trunk, i've bought some powerfull smd led's and wanted to fit it in the trunk..

These LED's can only work if + is to + and visa versa for -, so the first time i installed it in the wrong way into the socket, it had to come out and turned 180 degrees before installation again, but the LED was stuck, so i used a - wait for it - KEY to yank it out, doing so, i obviously made a shortcircut in the socket... Jesus christ, stupid stupid me.

Now the lights in the computer have blown(THe lcd works fine tho but is barely readable), havent tested if the sockets works yet. The automatic interior lights that turns on upon opening a door does not work either (This goes for any door, but manually turning it on works fine in the rear as well), but the manual function works fine! (What the hell??). Also, Date and time will not be remembered by the computer for more that 10 minutes (When the ignition is of ofc.) before i have to put it in again.. oh god, can someone tell me what kind of damage i have done?

EDIT: The switch for the lights in the roof does not have any visible damage. No fuses have blown either but a 10a, but it didnt fix anything appearently.
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Re: 406 PH2 Electrical faults.

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Have you put the standard bulbs back in - sometimes the BSI rejects the LEDs and creates lots of other problems.
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