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Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:04 pm
by waue1978
Decided last night that I'd pop the lion badge off the tailgate & see what could be done with it as it was looking a bit manky. Removal is a delicate process - the sucker is really well stuck on there. I used a screwdriver wrapped in an old teatowel to avoid scraping paint & after some careful levering (& a little bit of scrubbing to clean where the badge was) I was left with this:

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& this:

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Just to be safe & prevent water ingress I popped a bit of tape over the 2 holes that were left in the tailgate. Then I cleaned up all the sticky sh*te off the back of the badge & left it like this:

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(note the 2 locating pins)


After a close inspection, I figured that the logo part would come away from the badge itself & using fingers & brute force I ended up with this:

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The logo part wouldn't come apart any more so I binned that & cleaned up the badge to end up with this:

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Not too sure what to do next. I'm thinking along the lines of getting a chrome lion from either a later 406 estate or one of the other models & seeing if it would cover the holes when fitted, but if that ends up being a dead end, I've still got the badge to play with.

Anybody have any suggestions?

Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:25 pm
by highlander
The badge from the late-model estates does not fit into the holes that you're left with on your tailgate. I recall Dai telling us he'd had a go and it wouldn't fit on there because the newer-style chrome lion badge doesn't have pins on the back.

You could possibly fill in the two pin holes and paint over them (may end up looking crap though) and stick a new-style chrome lion badge there.

Or, and I suspect this may actually be easier and produce better results, you could find a late-model estate in your colour, and nick the whole tailgate off it, stick it on your car. That is, unless they made some other drastic change to the tailgate design which renders that idea completely useless.

Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:33 pm
by waue1978
Wasn't sure if Dai had actually tried one on it or just figured it was a stick on. Had a look on service box & there's only 1`part number for the tailgate which suggests that it may be the same badge fitting on a later one.

I could be wrong, but I couldn't say for sure either way without having a look at the later badge, but even if that turns out to be a no-go, I'm going to look into getting a chrome lion from another model if there's one that would cover the holes if placed correctly.

The standard badge is 74mm wide at it's widst point, 73mm tall & the locating pins are 46mm apart. I've found a couple of lions on Ebay measuring over 80mm. Reckon there'll be one that'll fit on there.

Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:01 pm
by Doggy
waue1978 wrote: Image
Didn't recognise you without the cap, Victor. :lol:

Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:38 pm
by nivek
Hi, its a shame you binned it, Icould of made you a new one to cover it
regards Kev

Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:47 pm
by nivek
waue1978 wrote:Decided last night that I'd pop the lion badge off the tailgate & see what could be done with it as it was looking a bit manky. Removal is a delicate process - the sucker is really well stuck on there. I used a screwdriver wrapped in an old teatowel to avoid scraping paint & after some careful levering (& a little bit of scrubbing to clean where the badge was) I was left with this:

Image

& this:

Image

Just to be safe & prevent water ingress I popped a bit of tape over the 2 holes that were left in the tailgate. Then I cleaned up all the sticky sh*te off the back of the badge & left it like this:

Image

(note the 2 locating pins)


After a close inspection, I figured that the logo part would come away from the badge itself & using fingers & brute force I ended up with this:

Image

The logo part wouldn't come apart any more so I binned that & cleaned up the badge to end up with this:

Image

Image

Not too sure what to do next. I'm thinking along the lines of getting a chrome lion from either a later 406 estate or one of the other models & seeing if it would cover the holes when fitted, but if that ends up being a dead end, I've still got the badge to play with.

Anybody have any suggestions?
Hi, its a real shame you binned it...I could of made you a new one to go over the top.......quick empty the bin :shock:

Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:18 pm
by waue1978
I only binned the manky black & silver lion bit. I still have the silver badge (shown in the last pic). How would you make up a new one? Was contemplating getting a gold lion, painting the grill lion gold & covering my chrome strips in gold for a one-off look, but can't find any proper shiny gold film or paint anywhere.

Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:26 pm
by plod
He is currently doing some Lion badges over on the Coupe club, that to be honest look extremely promising, and I for one will be buying one
I guess he could of done the same for the estates owners with a template

Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:32 pm
by waue1978
I can always send the silver bit off if need be.

Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:38 pm
by plod
He's offline at mo, so why not pm him and ask him

Guess he already has the image of the Lion, so i'm sure it's just for size purposes to fit within the surround

Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:47 pm
by nivek
plod wrote:He's offline at mo, so why not pm him and ask him

Guess he already has the image of the Lion, so i'm sure it's just for size purposes to fit within the surround
Cheers Plod...I'm on the case 8) :cheesy:

Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:40 pm
by MilesS835
Did anyone get anywhere with this in the end?
My ‘98’s badge is not in a good way😔

Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:01 am
by dirtydirtydiesel
Holly thread resurrection Batman :lol:

Have a look on Ebay there's plenty of domed replacement lion badge centre's available on there.

Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:08 pm
by MilesS835
Yes I suppose it is quite a resurrection! :lol:
I've had a look on and off online for a replacement boot badge but they seem far and few between :|
I did find this one at a scrap yard which had 3 406's in.
Compared to the badge on my car this one looks mint! :lol:
Pug boot badge.jpg
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Re: Estate Badge Removal & Possible Refurb

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:40 pm
by dirtydirtydiesel
The best bet is to get creative & refurb your own original one,
Polish up the original aluminium badge centre, place on top a suitable lion emblem,
Spray gloss or satin black,
Remove emblem with a scaple point,
Clear lacquer,
Stand back & admire your handiwork :cheesy: