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Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:45 pm
by MilesS835
Whenever I step back and look at my pug (V6 estate) I always think it's let down by being so arse-high.
It's like it needs lowering at the back by about an inch just to level it out?? :?
Anyone else think this?
I do eventually eventually want to get some lowering springs (about 30mm). Would these level it out at all?

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:58 pm
by dirtydirtydiesel
Probably,
I always felt that my 2.0 hdi sat to high at the front :roll:
So I lowered it at the front only.
You can get quite a choice of different lowering springs for the 406
Weitec (now ST) suspension do what they brand as a wedge kit were you can have different
Lowering front & rear.

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:20 pm
by steve_earwig
The front sat too low on my 2.1td (I think they're about the same weight) because the springs had sagged, that's not the problem is it?

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:40 pm
by dirtydirtydiesel
dirtydirtydiesel wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:58 pm Probably,
I always felt that my 2.0 hdi sat to high at the front :roll:
So I lowered it at the front only.
You can get quite a choice of different lowering springs for the 406
Weitec (now ST) suspension do what they brand as a wedge kit where you can have different
Lowering front & rear.

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:59 pm
by Wul
I also feel the back is wayyy too high, but in a way that makes me confident when I'm going through steep ramp or even unnaturally high speed bumps.

The previous owner had lowered the rear which I do have to admit it looks nicer overall, but having to slow down for steep ramp or speed bumps gets tiring very quickly (and even then sometimes it still scrapes the bottom of the car).

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:00 am
by Welly
I think this is more about the front end sinking over time, springs/dampers/bushes all getting tired.

We canvassed a thread on here once where members were encouraged to measure the front end ride height, obviously I can't be arsed to find it and you can bet Photofuckit have ruined it anyway but the measures should still be recorded.

Blooming hell I found it quickly: http://www.406oc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f= ... ght#p36477

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:07 pm
by steve_earwig
Oh! I was looking for that thread to post here but couldn't find it, in the end I decided I'd probably dreamt it :supafrisk:

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:14 pm
by Doggy
It's not often I get to say, "that was before my time", these days. :shock:

FWIW my first thoughts were of a saggy front end too.

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:51 am
by MilesS835
Doggy wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:14 pm It's not often I get to say, "that was before my time", these days. :shock:

FWIW my first thoughts were of a saggy front end too.
Stuff never looks as good when it gets old and saggy :lol:

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:59 am
by MilesS835
Welly wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:00 am I think this is more about the front end sinking over time, springs/dampers/bushes all getting tired.

We canvassed a thread on here once where members were encouraged to measure the front end ride height, obviously I can't be arsed to find it and you can bet Photofuckit have ruined it anyway but the measures should still be recorded.

Blooming hell I found it quickly: http://www.406oc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f= ... ght#p36477
Photofuckit :lol: :lol:

Reading through that link, TooT said his V6 was lower at the front, maybe that's why mine looks stupid also? I think it's a good excuse for some lowering/"levelling" springs either way. 680mm ground clearance doesn't sound like a lot though, less than my DeLorean I think :?

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:18 am
by MilesS835
Ok,
Looking at lowering springs, it seems Apex springs are no longer available? these seemed to be the common choice.
Has anyone got PI lowering springs on their car? are they any good?
I'm Looking at Spax as well but they're more expensive and don't clearly list the estate :roll:

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:14 pm
by dirtydirtydiesel
Yep Pi on mine.
Apex were cheep sh*t anyway :roll:

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:08 am
by MilesS835
dirtydirtydiesel wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:14 pm Yep Pi on mine.
Apex were cheep sh*t anyway :roll:
Are they any good? is how has the ride and handling been affected?

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:17 pm
by dirtydirtydiesel
It's a bit firmer obviously, but not in a bad way. It hasn't ruined it (for me anyway)
Also it doesn't roll into the bends as much (which I prefer).
But yes I'm very happy overall & they are good quality & have done over 50k with them fitted.

Mainly due to being new & 40mm lower
As the spring rate is the same it get's firmer the shorter it is.

Re: Sits too high at the back?

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:35 pm
by MilesS835
Well I had it parked outside for a while without being driven and noticed one day that the front was ridiculously low... I guess I have to get lowering springs now as the original has snapped! Seems to happen with all my bloody cars! this and the Delorean within a couple of weeks of each other!! :x