O/S Rear door won't open

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grasmere59
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O/S Rear door won't open

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Just realised that the O/S rear door on my 53' 406 estate won't open from either the outside nor the inside,when you activate the central locking with your hand on the door panel you can feel the solenoid cluncking but neither handle will open the door,any ideas guys as i can't get to anything to do with the mechanism with the door closed,bit of a catch 22 situation. :?
2011 "11" Mondeo TXS est 200ps in Grey
2003 "53" 110 hdi Executive Estate in Diablo Red
2001 "51" BMW 530i sport in Black
2012 "62" Yamaha XT1200
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1994 "M" Kawasaki Zephyr 1100
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Re: O/S Rear door won't open

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Just read a post with the same problem,looks like i'm buggered then,brute force and ignorance.I don't want to damage the door card as it is in the chesnut leather and i should imagine there not easy to come buy so better try and be carefull.
2011 "11" Mondeo TXS est 200ps in Grey
2003 "53" 110 hdi Executive Estate in Diablo Red
2001 "51" BMW 530i sport in Black
2012 "62" Yamaha XT1200
1974 "M" Honda CB500/4
1994 "M" Kawasaki Zephyr 1100
1998 "S" Honda XRV 750
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Re: O/S Rear door won't open

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Hi Brett, I had this on donor car a while back and I managed to get the door open ( probably more by luck than judgement though.. )

I unlocked the car with the key, reached into the car and physically made sure all doors were locked with the buttons, then I wound down the drivers window and reached in and locked it manually from inside too.

I then used the key in the lock from outside the car and 'presto' all door were unlocked.

This may not work on yours, but a similar locking/unlocking/key method may eventually get things working.

Initially I removed the door card, which you can on the estate as the seats move to get access to the screws, but wiggling the door rods did nothing at all..... :roll:
2003 2.2hdi estate - mine
1998 Volvo 940 auto estate - also mine
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Re: O/S Rear door won't open

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Cheers Kelv,
Just tried all that but nada,when you use the remote the inner lock paddle swings back and forth as usual but won't pickup what ever the mechanism is in the lock.I best check when the MOT is due as i can live without it opening as i very rarely take passengers but i assume it'll be an MOT failure.
2011 "11" Mondeo TXS est 200ps in Grey
2003 "53" 110 hdi Executive Estate in Diablo Red
2001 "51" BMW 530i sport in Black
2012 "62" Yamaha XT1200
1974 "M" Honda CB500/4
1994 "M" Kawasaki Zephyr 1100
1998 "S" Honda XRV 750
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Re: O/S Rear door won't open

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I still have donor car here, so if you need to replace the mechanism I have one here you can have.
2003 2.2hdi estate - mine
1998 Volvo 940 auto estate - also mine
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Re: O/S Rear door won't open

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Cheers Kelv i think i will be needing one,also have you got the landing catch for the rear tailgate (the bit in the rear step) as i tried to adjust mine to stop the tailgate rattling and busted a plastic bit off,it still shuts but rattles even more now!
2011 "11" Mondeo TXS est 200ps in Grey
2003 "53" 110 hdi Executive Estate in Diablo Red
2001 "51" BMW 530i sport in Black
2012 "62" Yamaha XT1200
1974 "M" Honda CB500/4
1994 "M" Kawasaki Zephyr 1100
1998 "S" Honda XRV 750
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Re: O/S Rear door won't open

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Yes, I'll add it in the parcel with the door latch.

Kelv.
2003 2.2hdi estate - mine
1998 Volvo 940 auto estate - also mine
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Re: O/S Rear door won't open

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pm sent
2011 "11" Mondeo TXS est 200ps in Grey
2003 "53" 110 hdi Executive Estate in Diablo Red
2001 "51" BMW 530i sport in Black
2012 "62" Yamaha XT1200
1974 "M" Honda CB500/4
1994 "M" Kawasaki Zephyr 1100
1998 "S" Honda XRV 750
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Re: O/S Rear door won't open

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Quick update,i went to see a mechanic mate of mine today and described the problem of the door and he said he has had the same problem with many cars in the past and said to try and give the door a whack while operating the central locking,i gave the door a couple of smacks and hey presto it now opens,i'm going to remove the panel now and give the door mechanism a good dose of WD and see how it goes.Giving it a whack sort of made sense as the back doors hardly get used and the mechanism probably gets sticky and it just needed a jolt to free it up.
2011 "11" Mondeo TXS est 200ps in Grey
2003 "53" 110 hdi Executive Estate in Diablo Red
2001 "51" BMW 530i sport in Black
2012 "62" Yamaha XT1200
1974 "M" Honda CB500/4
1994 "M" Kawasaki Zephyr 1100
1998 "S" Honda XRV 750
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Re: O/S Rear door won't open

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The problem will be with the deadlocking side of things.It will fail the MOT if the tester cannot open the door,as mine failed last year.The door card comes off easy from the inside with the door shut.Then using a torch,locate the torx screw on the plastic housing,and using a screwdriver etc on the head of the torx screw,give it a few hard hits with a hammer.Try using the remote locking and it should open.I then disconnected the plug to the lock.The window and puddle light still works fine,you just have to lock and unlock the door from the inside.I`m sure i did a post on this with pictures.I`ll have a look and post the link.
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Re: O/S Rear door won't open

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http://406oc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=22645
Looks like the pics have expired,sorry.
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