Coolant temperature too high warning message on a D9 406
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Coolant temperature too high warning message on a D9 406
Ok ladies and gents welcome to the very first of Fogs howto guides
Firstly confirm that you have coolant and that the car isnt overheating. Now turn off the air conditioning, if the STOP light goes out and the car stops beeping at you then all is good, there is nothing wrong with your coolant and coolant temperatures, infact the warning will still come up if the engine is off
This is quite a common problem and usually means your fan, fan speed resistors or relay have thrown in the towel (damned quitters )
Pop the bonnet up and remove the centre grill with the Lion badge.
Start the car and turn on the air con, check to see if your fan is running, if it is stopped then the fan, one of the relays or the wiring is faulty.
If the fan starts, stops, starts stops etc then it is most likely one of the two resistors.
Turn the car off and unplug the fan, check it turns freely, then using a DVM measure the resistance across the pins, if it reads 0 ohms or open circuit then its a duffer, otherwise all ok.
Next check the resistors, remove the plugs and undo the screw holding them in place, visually inspect the resistor (coil of wire) and give it a prod, I found that mine had corroded through thus becoming open circuit and preventing the fan from running at full speed. Do this with both resistors in turn.
Now check the relays, remove the clip on cover on the right hand side. there are several relays, starting at the top unplug and test one by one. To test use a DVM to measure the resistance across the coil of the relay (look on the side of the relay for the pin numbers) if the coil measures 0 ohms or open circuit then shes a duffer. It is also a good idea to measure the contact resistance between the common pin and the NO and NC pins of the relay, these should be less than 1 ohm, if not, then best to replace it.
finally it is a good idea to check the wiring loom for damage or corroded connectors by tracing along the loom and visually checking everything.
Hopefully by this point you should have pinpointed where your problem lies (I hope )
Thanks for reading, let me know what you think, or if there is any other info I should put in.
Fog
Firstly confirm that you have coolant and that the car isnt overheating. Now turn off the air conditioning, if the STOP light goes out and the car stops beeping at you then all is good, there is nothing wrong with your coolant and coolant temperatures, infact the warning will still come up if the engine is off
This is quite a common problem and usually means your fan, fan speed resistors or relay have thrown in the towel (damned quitters )
Pop the bonnet up and remove the centre grill with the Lion badge.
Start the car and turn on the air con, check to see if your fan is running, if it is stopped then the fan, one of the relays or the wiring is faulty.
If the fan starts, stops, starts stops etc then it is most likely one of the two resistors.
Turn the car off and unplug the fan, check it turns freely, then using a DVM measure the resistance across the pins, if it reads 0 ohms or open circuit then its a duffer, otherwise all ok.
Next check the resistors, remove the plugs and undo the screw holding them in place, visually inspect the resistor (coil of wire) and give it a prod, I found that mine had corroded through thus becoming open circuit and preventing the fan from running at full speed. Do this with both resistors in turn.
Now check the relays, remove the clip on cover on the right hand side. there are several relays, starting at the top unplug and test one by one. To test use a DVM to measure the resistance across the coil of the relay (look on the side of the relay for the pin numbers) if the coil measures 0 ohms or open circuit then shes a duffer. It is also a good idea to measure the contact resistance between the common pin and the NO and NC pins of the relay, these should be less than 1 ohm, if not, then best to replace it.
finally it is a good idea to check the wiring loom for damage or corroded connectors by tracing along the loom and visually checking everything.
Hopefully by this point you should have pinpointed where your problem lies (I hope )
Thanks for reading, let me know what you think, or if there is any other info I should put in.
Fog
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Sorry Foggy, I meant to reply earlier........Great Post there matey, well done for putting in so much effort....
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Thank you kind sirWelton wrote:Sorry Foggy, I meant to reply earlier........Great Post there matey, well done for putting in so much effort....
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Well done, that's what this place is for
I'll know who to ask then if mine goes the same way because I am *crap* at electronics.
I've just ''blown up'' my second multimeter thing by using the wrong setting on it around the house
I'll know who to ask then if mine goes the same way because I am *crap* at electronics.
I've just ''blown up'' my second multimeter thing by using the wrong setting on it around the house
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let me guess, trying to measure current using the amp setting, when your actually measuring voltsWelton wrote: I've just ''blown up'' my second multimeter thing by using the wrong setting on it around the house
Welton, havent you thought about buying a decent multimeter with built in surge protection and fuse protection
ive got a draper proffesional (snap on ones are overpriced and crap) one its lasted me a year and i really abuse it, it retails £99 but i got it for £63, trade discount
FAQ - 406 D8 petrol (excl. V6) running and starting problemsPeugeot wrote:what are you worried about? we made car that lasted 10 years"..."Zat is very goode non?
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How did you know thatjameslxdt wrote:let me guess, trying to measure current using the amp setting, when your actually measuring voltsWelton wrote: I've just ''blown up'' my second multimeter thing by using the wrong setting on it around the house
Welton, havent you thought about buying a decent multimeter with built in surge protection and fuse protection
ive got a draper proffesional (snap on ones are overpriced and crap) one its lasted me a year and i really abuse it, it retails £99 but i got it for £63, trade discount
I had a *really* crappy meter (the yellow cheap one) and it was giving a funny reading so in my haste I turned the setting through the voltage bit onto the amps bit and *poof* it was dead
I am good at 240V house electrics and can easily do ring mains and two-way lighting switching etc and I use the meter for conformatory checks when I isolate a circuit or whatever. But testing components and amps/resistance etc I cannot do.
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Wow thats a great piece of information.. Mine is a D8 and i played plenty of time with the relay box between two fans and only those 3 relays I found has a direct link to the 2 fans. the green relay has a bi-pass line which passes the current in the off position and the bottom relay is the one which turns both fans at lower speed. When the green (the one in your right hand side) on turns on it cuts off current to the bottom one and provide a direct current to the right hand side fan and the other relay does the same to the left hand side fan. so both gets 12v each 'n start working in the full speed where as earlier it got 12 v for both the fans so both work in a serial manner and the 12 v get distributed among 2 fans so the speed is low.. (that explains why fans comes at lower speed at first)
now my question is .. does D8 has fan resistors.. where can I find them..
now my question is .. does D8 has fan resistors.. where can I find them..
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the fans should come on as soon as you turn on the a/c
FAQ - 406 D8 petrol (excl. V6) running and starting problemsPeugeot wrote:what are you worried about? we made car that lasted 10 years"..."Zat is very goode non?