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What code reader?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:23 pm
by waj1234
Anyone know what type of code reader I would need for a 2.2 sri 2000 w reg? Done a bit of googling but cant find info as to what type of type it is.

If possible anyone recomend one at a decent price?

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:42 pm
by mjb
Your choices are extremely limited - basically you need to spend a few hundred on a Lexia PC interface and some illegal software. Probably better to just pay a dealer for a diag session.

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:21 am
by carsten0
I use a U581 on my 406 HDI 1999.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Car-Diagnostic-Sc ... 286.c0.m14

So fare i have tryed it on:
Peugeot 2,0 HDI 1999
Citroen C5 2,0 2001
Opel Corsa 2006
Ford Escort 1996

Didtend work on:
Vw Transporter
Opel Zafira

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:43 am
by waj1234
That sounds good. Anything cheaper? Only need a simple one really. I am gonna see under the bonnet if there is a sign that it is obd 2 before I buy.

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:39 am
by carsten0
Mine isent a obd 2. It protocol is called a kwp2000, I think.

This one is cheaper, but it dosent support can-bus:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/U381-OBD-2-II-EOB ... 286.c0.m14

Sorry for my english. I am from Denmark :D

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:00 am
by waj1234
I have seen the even cheaper too. The main thing I need to know is if it is obd 2 or not as I cant find any info on it. There are no stickers or plates on the car saying so either.

Your english is just fine too :wink:

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:21 pm
by carsten0
why do you need to know that. Mine is not. but I can communicat whit it any way. If yours is from 2000, it dosent support obd2. The socket looks like a Obd2, but as fare as i know it is not.

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:42 pm
by waj1234
mjb wrote:Your choices are extremely limited - basically you need to spend a few hundred on a Lexia PC interface and some illegal software. Probably better to just pay a dealer for a diag session.
You 100% sure of that? The reader the garage used looked like a simple hand held one too and he did not charge me anything to read and clear it. Thing is I know that obd 2 was not on all cars here until 2001 but there are still some that have it prior to 2001 from what I have read?

I suppose I could buy one on ebay and just see as my wifes car is a 2003 and no doubt I will change to a newer one sooner or later and it will come in handy again some day.

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:20 pm
by carsten0
I am not 100% sure. The thing i know, is that I can read mine whit the u581. And I get live data from the car. eg TPS sensor, coolant temp, maf sensor......It read the car as a kwp2000 protocol. I would buy the u581, becaus it supports canbus. It may be handy in the future. You can also buy a u585, that supports Vagcom(vw,seat,skoda,audi) Good luck :D

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:46 pm
by mjb
carsten0 wrote:The thing i know, is that I can read mine whit the u581
Your ECU is completely different. Different functions, different make, different protocol.

also, "with" is spelt w-i-t-h
I would buy the u581, becaus it supports canbus.
Shame the guy's car doesn't :roll:

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:50 pm
by waj1234
mjb, what protocol does my car take exactly? Since it is fairly rare and the same engine is in a 407 (not sure if same ecu) I am finding it hard to get info. As I said the garages reader looked basic also but what do I know.

I know it says cars from 2001 are obd 2 but some prior are also, just I can't seem to find info. If there are deffo no readers for mine I will save myself money and hassle buying one thats all.

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:14 pm
by carsten0

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:18 pm
by mjb
waj1234 wrote:mjb, what protocol does my car take exactly?
I'm afraid I can't answer that. To find out, I'd suggest booking it in at a dealers for a diag reading, and ask the guy very nicely if he'll tell you once he's got it hooked up to his interface. I doubt the answer will help you find a reader though - pre-2001 petrols appear to speak a protocol similar to KWP2000 which seems to be incompatible with every cheap reader anyone's tried
Since it is fairly rare and the same engine is in a 407 (not sure if same ecu) I am finding it hard to get info.
I doubt it's the same ECU, and if it is it'll most likely be running a very different firmware. If I recall correctly, the 2.0 petrol turbo shares its ECU with some Vauxhall, Alfa Romeos, Seats and BMWs. You couldn't swap them around though!

I know how you feel about the lack of information though; finding out anything about the 2.0 petrol turbo was nigh on impossible until enough of us here had them and had done enough work on 'em! Unfortunately speaking to pre-2001 petrol ECUs is just as unknown to us all. At the moment.
As I said the garages reader looked basic also but what do I know.
There are some incredibly expensive readers which look basic, but will speak to your toaster! :)

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:29 pm
by waj1234
I am gonna book it in for the air con servicing soon (bit late for this summer I know) and will get him to read it again and clear it for me as he dont charge me since its a friend of the family so I will ask about its protocol and see if it is the lambda sensor again giving the fault which if it is may explain the lumpy tick over.

Re: What code reader?

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:28 pm
by adam03031980
Have you had a look for interface kits that you make yourself and hook up to the pc ie from maplins or something my dad made his own somehow.