90 or 110?
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90 or 110?
Does anyone know how i can find out what bhp my C5 is? There's a sticker on the pug but i can't find nothing on the C5 maybe there's a way of doing it through the reg? I'd also like to contact the previous owner but I forgot to get his address off the log book when i bought it.
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Re: 90 or 110?
If you have an intercooler ( a pipe running alongside the engine cover to the intercooler on the right next to the rad ) - its a 110
No intercooler ( no pipe ) its a 90.
No intercooler ( no pipe ) its a 90.
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Re: 90 or 110?
Think you could tell from the VIN too.
Re: 90 or 110?
Yep if you're still not sure, PM me the VIN and I'll check on ServiceBox 


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Re: 90 or 110?
Oh aye I forgot about thatGingerMagic wrote:If you have an intercooler ( a pipe running alongside the engine cover to the intercooler on the right next to the rad ) - its a 110
No intercooler ( no pipe ) its a 90.

I spotted that the ecu is edc15 I wonder how easy it is to map? It popped up with an anti pollution fault yesterday and it's there every turn of the key so he can have it back Tuesday to top the elloys up or whatever needs doing under warranty but once the warranty expires I may do the deed. (if it can be done)
Jon I just opened servicebox but I cant see the vin on the bit of the log book i have so will have to also look for that when she comes home.

Re: 90 or 110?
EDC15 is bosch and can be remapped well for quite cheap now days.
Re: 90 or 110?
Uberderv wrote:EDC15 is bosch and can be remapped well for quite cheap now days.

What a cock I am today, claiming i don't have access to the vin until the car comes back... So what about the mot then dimwit?


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Re: 90 or 110?
Has it got an intercooler?
With pugs, you can tell from the VIN - digits 6 - 9 give you the engine code eg mine' s VF38E4HX, 4HX is the engine code
With pugs, you can tell from the VIN - digits 6 - 9 give you the engine code eg mine' s VF38E4HX, 4HX is the engine code
2002 HDi 2.2 Exec Estate, (2008-12) (wonderful)
2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
2009 Citroen C5 2.0 HDi VTR+ Estate (godawful heap)
2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
2007 BMW E91 325i touring (slower smoother quieter)
2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
2009 Citroen C5 2.0 HDi VTR+ Estate (godawful heap)
2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
2007 BMW E91 325i touring (slower smoother quieter)
Re: 90 or 110?
rhzb are mine.Doggy wrote:Has it got an intercooler?
With pugs, you can tell from the VIN - digits 6 - 9 give you the engine code eg mine' s VF38E4HX, 4HX is the engine code
Re: 90 or 110?
It is indeed a 110 (as confirmed by RHZ in your VIN).
Here's the full gubbins from Service:C5 BERLINE 5PTES 2.0 HDi 110 (DW10ATED) BVM 5
Vehicle characteristics
Vehicle family C5
AS RPO No 09919 CJ 1 0184
Warranty Start Date 31/03/2004
OPB R002
BER e2*98/14*0220*04
General information
PRODUCT TYPE CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE CITROEN
VEHICLE FAMILY C5
SILHOUETTE 5 DOOR SALOON
TRIM LEVEL HIGH MEDIUM
ENGINE DW10ATED TURBO DIESEL WITHOUT FAP
TRANSMISSION BVM5
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EYL - PAINT - ICELAND GREY
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE CLOTH DAPER "KX"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FY"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) ML5C MANUAL GEARBOX
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW
Vehicle characteristics
TRIM LEVEL HIGH MEDIUM
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EYL - PAINT - ICELAND GREY
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE CLOTH DAPER "KX"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FY"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) ML5C MANUAL GEARBOX
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
Fuel supply-Engine
ENGINE DW10ATED TURBO DIESEL WITHOUT FAP
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUEL DIESEL FUEL
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE) EEC 2000 DEPOLL (ENGINE)
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW
OIL COOLER MNTG WATER/OIL EXCHANGER ON ENGINE
COOLING MOTOR RADIATOR TH : 27 - 21 DM2 BRAZED ALUMINIUM
EOBD SELF-DIAGNOSIS SYSTEM "EOBD" SELF-DIAGNOSIS
DEVICE (ANTIPOLLUTION) "EGR" EXHAUST GAS RECYCLING
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION L4 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION
PARTICLE FILTER WITHOUT PARTICLE FILTER
FAN 1 FAN 3 SPEEDS 500W
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT MOUNTING BOSCH
THROTTLE HOUSING (ENGINE INLET AIR CIRCUIT) WITHOUT THROTTLE HOUSING (INTAKE AIR ENGINE)
Gearbox-Driveshafts
TRANSMISSION BVM5
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) ML5C MANUAL GEARBOX
FINAL DRIVE RATIO REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 16 X 65
WHEEL STYLE 16 INCH HUNGARO ALLOY WHEEL
SEAL, WHEEL END WHEEL-SIDE JOINT DIAM 20
SEAL, DIFFERENTIAL END REAR AXLE SIDE JOINT JB3A
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE) 215X55X16 W TYRES
WHEEL (TYPE) ALLOY WHEEL ASSEMBLY 2
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR WITHOUT TYRE DEFLATION INDICATOR
GEARBOX TYPE ML MANUAL GEARBOX
Suspension-Steering-Brakes
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
TRACTION CONTROL WITHOUT ANTISLIPPING
STEERING TRAVEL STEERING MECHANISM TRAVEL 166
SUSPENSION NORMAL SUSPENSION
ACTIVE SUSPENSION WITHOUT HYDRACTIVE SUSPENSION
DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL SYSTEM WITHOUT ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM
Body fittings
SIDE MOULDINGS (TYPE) BODY COLOUR LATERAL PROTECTORS
SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION) PLASTIC SIDE PROTECTORS
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP WITHOUT SILL ILLUMINATION
ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE) W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION EXT DOOR MIRROR WITHOUT ADDITIONAL FUNCTION
WINDSCREEN WIPER FRONT WIPER BLADE WITH RAIN SENSOR
REAR SCREEN WIPER REAR SCREEN WIPER
HEADLAMP WIPER W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
FRONT PANEL BLANK WITHOUT FRONT BUMPER PLUG
LUGGAGE RACK WITHOUT ROOF BARS
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
SPARE WHEEL STEEL WHEEL + STANDARD TYRE
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES UNCOLOURED DOOR HANDLES + DOOR MIRRORS
SUN ROOF FIXED ROOF
BUMPER TRIM BODY COLOUR BUMPER STRIP
WINDOW (TYPE) ATHERMAL WINDSCREEN
Interior fittings
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE CLOTH DAPER "KX"
ANTI-THEFT ALARM ALARM ULTRASONIC+PERIMETER STD
REAR SEAT ARMREST WITH REAR ARMREST
RADIO TELEPHONE RADIO TELEPHONE PRE-EQUIPMENT (AERIAL + CABLE)
SPEED GRADUATIONS GRADUATION MPH
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
ADDITIONAL HEATING WITHOUT ADDITIONNAL HEATING
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT FASCIA FRONT PANEL MARLY DECOR
LOAD SPACE TRIM W/O MAT
UNDERSEAT STORAGE WITHOUT UNDER SEAT STORAGE
LOUDSPEAKER 4 FR SPEAKERS (2 TW + 2 FR) + 2 RR SPEAKERS
RADIO CONTROLS REMOTE RADIO CONTROL
SCREENING (BLIND, SIDE SUNBLIND, SUNROOF) WITHOUT REAR BLIND
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL FRONT ADJUSTMENT PASSENGER SPACER
DRIVER SEAT CONTROL DRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL PASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTMENT WITHOUT DRIVERS LUMBAR ADJUSTMENT
INT. UPHOLSTERY ELEMENTS CLOTH B POST + REAR QUARTER PANEL TRIM
FRONT SEAT ARMREST DRIVER ANT PASSENGER FRONT ARMREST
COMPACT DISC WITHOUT COMPACT DISC
STOWAGE BIN WITHOUT SETTING BOX
SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEM WITH TRAFFIC INFO SYSTEM
CD-ROM FOR CAR PC WITHOUT CD ROM FOR AUTO-PC
HEADLAMP BULBS HALOGEN BULB
REAR WINDOW LIFT SEQUENTIAL ELECTRIC REAR WINDOW + LOCKING
DISPLAY DISPLAY (RADIO+CLOCK AND OR TEMP, CD)
COURTESY MIRROR DRIVER’S + PASSENGER’S CONCEALABLE WITH LIGHT
OIL GAUGE TEMPERATURE RECEIVER
HEATING ELEMENT NON HEATED SEAT
FOOTWELL LIGHTING WITHOUT DOOR SILL LIGHTING
REAR PASSENGER PROTECTION W/O RR PASSENGER PROTECTION
AIRBAG DEACTIVATION MANUAL AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER WITHOUT HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
RADIO RECEIVER "RD3" RDS COMPACT DISC AUDIO SYSTEM
REFRIGERATION SINGLE AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROL WITHOUT SPEED CONTROL
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR DAY -NIGHT INNER REAR MIRROR
LOAD SPACE STORAGE W/O BOOT TIDY
OBSTACLE DETECTION SYSTEM WITHOUT OBSTACLE DETECTOR
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR WITHOUT TYRE DEFLATION INDICATOR
EQUALISER AMPLIFIER WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER
LOCKING CONTROL CENTRAL DEAD LOCKING
WINDOW (TYPE) ATHERMAL WINDSCREEN
STEERING WHEEL LEATHER STEER WHEEL 4 BRANCHS
FAN 1 FAN 3 SPEEDS 500W
AMBIENCE PACK MARLY DECOR AMBIANCE PACK
Electrical
ALTERNATOR ALTERNATOR 150 AMP
STARTER MOTOR STARTER MOTOR CL 5
SPECIAL LIGHTING AUTOMATIC HEADLAMP ILLUMINATION
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP WITHOUT SILL ILLUMINATION
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION EXT DOOR MIRROR WITHOUT ADDITIONAL FUNCTION
HEADLAMP BULBS HALOGEN BULB
FOOTWELL LIGHTING WITHOUT DOOR SILL LIGHTING
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER WITHOUT HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
RADIO FREQUENCY WESTERN EUROPE RADIO FREQUENCY
Component manufacturers
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT MOUNTING BOSCH
Miscellaneous
SPECIAL SPECIFICATION SPECIAL SERIES GREAT BRITAIN
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
SURFACE CONDITIONS GOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES UNCOLOURED DOOR HANDLES + DOOR MIRRORS
SLAVE CONTROL UNIT BSI LIGHT COM 2000
EMERGENCY WARNING TRIANGLE WITHOUT WARNING TRIANGLE

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Re: 90 or 110?
Thanks for that my servicepox wont recognise the vin.
Is that telling me there's no DPF?

Is that telling me there's no DPF?
Re: 90 or 110?
You're welcome! Correct, no DPF 


2002 V6 SE Coupé (210bhp) - (Aegean Blue)
2002 D9 2.2 HDi Exec Estate - Samarkand Blue
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Re: 90 or 110?
Why would i be getting the anti pollution fault then? At the risk of sounding daft.jonsowman wrote:You're welcome! Correct, no DPF

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Re: 90 or 110?
Any engine ecu related fault will be reported as 'Antipollution Fault'. Another triumph of marketing bullshit over sense. 

2002 HDi 2.2 Exec Estate, (2008-12) (wonderful)
2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
2009 Citroen C5 2.0 HDi VTR+ Estate (godawful heap)
2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
2007 BMW E91 325i touring (slower smoother quieter)
2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
2009 Citroen C5 2.0 HDi VTR+ Estate (godawful heap)
2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
2007 BMW E91 325i touring (slower smoother quieter)
Re: 90 or 110?
So it could be anything then?Doggy wrote:Any engine ecu related fault will be reported as 'Antipollution Fault'. Another triumph of marketing bullshit over sense.
