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clutch 2.1 not hdi

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:24 pm
by pjb0150
looking at buying 2.1 406 but clutch is not biting till last bit of travel on peddle ...
though not slipping
guideds seem to say that it should bite half way ish

my thoughts if its biting on last bit sureely that indicates its worn
ir clutch plate thinner from wear
if it was thicker it would bite sooner
any thoughts
tia

Re: clutch 2.1 not hdi

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:28 pm
by jonsowman
The 2.1 has a hydraulic clutch release system which is self adjusting as the friction material wears. The biting point tells you nothing about the state of the clutch really. How many miles has the car done?

My 2.1 has always had a high clutch. Had a new Valeo clutch fitted 4,000 miles ago and the biting point had returned to normal after ~500 miles of bedding in.

Re: clutch 2.1 not hdi

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:02 pm
by midsmike
Yeh t'he 2.1s have a high biting point ive had 2 but driven 5 and they all been t'he same

Re: clutch 2.1 not hdi

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:07 pm
by pjb0150
well thats reasuring
136 k miles
plenty of power it seems
but noticed a little oil seepage around inlet rubbers ...=possible turbo seals maybe
thinking of ripping off that lucas epic pump and sticking a decent bosch pump on it

Re: clutch 2.1 not hdi

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:14 pm
by midsmike
It will need sum new inlet rubbers and u will get a bit of oil in t'he inlet and are you putting a bosch pump on to run it on veg if not ide leave t'he lucas on

Re: clutch 2.1 not hdi

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:22 pm
by pjb0150
oh yes it will c veg oil once bosch pump is on
can turbo be removed with engine in car do u know
thats the only down sidde i see for the 2.1 heard stories of accesability problems
this ones seems to have a reasonable handbrake

Re: clutch 2.1 not hdi

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:29 pm
by midsmike
You can but its tight and t'he handbrakes can work gd if t'he cables are gd and its adjusted right

Re: clutch 2.1 not hdi

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:38 pm
by pjb0150
mmn going to have a job turning this one down maybe b
only a couple of niggles that owner says he will fix
handbrake light stays on fluid level is good though
orange like a traction cpontrollight car with slippy road light
it cany have traction control so winder if this is abs

Re: clutch 2.1 not hdi

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:40 pm
by jonsowman
Handbrake light could be the handbrake microswitch.

The orange light you describe is indeed the ABS, could be one of many problems there, diagnostics are your best/easiest bet.

Re: clutch 2.1 not hdi

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:44 pm
by midsmike
It will be t'he switch under t'he handbrake for t'he light and that will sort t'he traction light on mine comes on wen im handbraking it in t'he snow

Re: clutch 2.1 not hdi

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:53 pm
by marty1979
The rubber collars that join the inlet manifold were weeping on my 2.1, I took them off and put some zip ties around them, top and bottom, just tight enough so that they required a small amount off force to put them back on. Problem solved, no more weeping :cheesy:

Re: clutch 2.1 not hdi

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:40 pm
by midsmike
marty1979 wrote:The rubber collars that join the inlet manifold were weeping on my 2.1, I took them off and put some zip ties around them, top and bottom, just tight enough so that they required a small amount off force to put them back on. Problem solved, no more weeping :cheesy:
Thats a gd idea i never fort of that there bout 5 pound each aswell