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Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:38 pm
by mjb
DO NOT BUY if at all possible....
Over xmas my coupé's exhaust died taking both middle and rear sections. Due to the timing, I was forced to fit the parts eurocarparts had in stock - which were the cheapest.
Only a fortnight later, the "chrome plated" tailpipe trim was showing signs of corrosion. Now, you'll be lucky to see any chrome left on it
I'm guessing the rest of it looks just as bad...
I'm going to get me an OEM centre to go with the OEM back box I picked up not too long ago and fit them if and when I ever find time, but still - WOW - the cheap one's gone bad quicker that I'd ever have imagined. In fact I've probably not put more than 1000 miles on it!!!
Re: Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:59 pm
by highlander
How much do these "cheap" and "OEM" exhaust bits cost?
I went full PowerFlow stainless with mine, and my wallet was lightened by £360 all-inclusive, definitely worth it for the peace of mind that if any exhaust bits do wear out they'll replace them free of charge, but also worth it because of the improved exhaust note and slight lift in power. You do need to take the car back to your local PF dealer for a free annual inspection to keep the warranty alive, but if they spot anything during their inspection (hangers, welds, etc) that isn't working right or is worn, they'll fix it for you at no cost.
Christmas is the worst time for car problems to develop
Re: Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:38 pm
by Welly
highlander wrote:I went full PowerFlow stainless with mine...........
Really? you should have said before
Re: Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:57 pm
by highlander
Listen, don't mention the PowerFlow. I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it all right.
Re: Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:33 pm
by Doggy
highlander wrote:Listen, don't mention the
PowerFlow. I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it all right.
Mum's the word!
I bought an OEM back box from
http://www.thepeugeotshop.co.uk/ 3 years back & it's still fine, if a little dull around the tailpipe regions.
The 7-year old original was picked up at it's 1st MOT in my tenure, because one of the straps around it had rusted away and it was 'insecure'.
the actual box was fine........
Re: Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:36 pm
by mjb
highlander wrote:How much do these "cheap" and "OEM" exhaust bits cost?
I think it was £80 total for the cheap mid+back, and about £400 for the OEM. Managed to grab a new OEM back box from lurch for £50 tho
Don't really want to fit it until I've got the mid (and a replacement cat to give me some horses back) too
I went full PowerFlow stainless with mine
Really? Hmm why don't you tell us all about it... How much was it, did it improve the exhaust note, what's the warranty like, and did the fitter smell nice?
Was considering a Powerflow, but I managed to get the OEM back box at a good price, and there's no risk of an OEM system affecting my insurance. At this point, at around 10-12 years average, an OEM system will almost certainly last longer than the car will (and without needing an annual inspection)
Christmas is the worst time for car problems to develop
The day before xmas eve too...
Re: Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:31 pm
by highlander
I was pleasantly surprised by how little it change my annual premium. Given that the whole thing cost less to design and fit than you said the OEM exhaust costs, then I'd go stainless steel every time.
Also, because yours is a V6, if your car develops a sudden and unexpected case of dead, then you can always strip the exhaust off the car before it goes to the scrappy, and sell it on - stainless exhausts for the V6 seem to be easily fit to other V6 cars (saloon/estate/Coupe) and HDis as well. Unlike the one I had on my 1.8, which is only of any use to people with a 1.8...
Ring up your insurer and ask how much it would cost. Doesn't hurt to ask...
...unlike asking the exhaust fitter if he wouldn't mind you sniffing him - I don't think that would go down too well
Re: Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:30 pm
by Welly
highlander wrote:exhaust.....stainless exhausts ....exhaust fitter........
Right that's it! if you mention exhausts or Powerflow for the rest of April I'm putting you on a temporary ban
Really, some people.....
Re: Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:39 pm
by highlander
What if I call them "Spain-less spiel egg sauces" by "Tower Hoe" - will this be acceptable?
Re: Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:48 pm
by Welly
highlander wrote:What if I call them "Spain-less spiel egg sauces" by "Tower Hoe" - will this be acceptable?
Yes that will be within the rules of the club, unfortunately
Re: Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:25 pm
by lozz
These stainless steel egg sauce systems have confused me,
as anyone stuck a magnet to a stainless branded back box yet ?
Magnet sticks,
hows that if its sposed be stainless
Re: Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:19 am
by wilko
i had a stainless tubey thingy on my 1.8. if money was to allow i would deffo get another and mine was not a performance type it was a exact copy of my origanal gas ejection system thingy
Re: Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:48 am
by Bailes1992
lozz wrote:These stainless steel egg sauce systems have confused me,
as anyone stuck a magnet to a stainless branded back box yet ?
Magnet sticks,
hows that if its sposed be stainless
Obviously someones been ripped off at some point!
Re: Cheap exhaust pipes
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:09 am
by Welly
the Internet wrote:It is commonly stated that “stainless steel is non-magnetic”. This is not strictly true and the real situation is rather more complicated. The degree of magnetic response or magnetic permeability is derived from the microstructure of the steel. A totally non-magnetic material has a relative magnetic permeability of 1. Austenitic structures are totally non-magnetic and so a 100% austenitic stainless steel would have a permeability of 1. In practice this is not achieved. There is always a small amount of ferrite and/or martensite in the steel and so permeability values are always above 1. Typical values for standard austenitic stainless steels can be in the order of 1.05 – 1.1. See Composition effects on the magnetic permeability of austenitic stainless steels
It is possible for the magnetic permeability of austenitic steels to be changed during processing. For example, cold work and welding are liable to increase the amount of martensite and ferrite respectively in the steel. A familiar example is in a stainless steel sink where the flat drainer has little magnetic response whereas the pressed bowl has a higher response due to the formation of martensite particularly in the corners.
In practical terms, austenitic stainless steels are used for “non-magnetic” applications, for example magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). In these cases, it is often necessary to agree a maximum magnetic permeability between customer and supplier. It can be as low as 1.004.
Martensitic, ferritic, duplex and precipitation hardening steels are magnetic.
Source; http://www.bssa.org.uk/faq.php?id=24