The wonky £1K citron Citroën

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Re: The wonky £1K citron Citroën

Post by Doggy » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:37 pm

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......And thus the latest Plan A is to be able to do 300 miles in in on Thrusday...
Going somewhere nice?

Best of luck with it. Those pipes look similar to the ones used on a 406 for A/C connections onto the compressor and some of the power steering pipework, (if memory serves, since I don't have one anymore). :(

My Citroen musings have taken a slightly different tack, the RT4/5 has started turning the display off & back on every 30 seconds or so, which I guess is indicative of a terminally ill hard disc. Initially I was thinking of replacing it with an aftermarket Android panel, but realised I'd loose the parking sensor functionality. Plan B was to get a 2nd hand unit from a slightly newer car, that would include Bluetooth, (which mine missed by about 2 months).

I had a towbar fitted on Wednesday, which I was pleased to see didn't interfere with the parking sensors, (cheapskate here refused the extra £60 or so for a removable one). Sure enough, come Friday afternoon the parking sensors 'discovered' the tow hitch and now spot it every time without fail, so I have to turn them off.....

Which brings me to Plan C revisit the aftermarket Android alternative. :roll:
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Re: The wonky £1K citron Citroën

Post by rwb » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:55 am

Hard drive replacement "should" be straightforward... but I think we said that before.

I'd be surprised if you could find an RT5 with bluetooth; they are the holy grail! There's a guy on the 407 Facebook group who's been after one for months, and it's unclear how much loom is different with bluetooth phone.

Can't get any sense out of anyone on the joining of steel to flexible pipe.
Citroen want £340 for a complete pipe set.
I suspect it's going to be to take off and take to Piritek.

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Re: The wonky £1K citron Citroën

Post by Doggy » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:54 am

Any of the hydraulic hose outfits should be able to help, 'we' (before I retired), used to get one of them to make similar-ish things up on site. Maybe if you crossed one of their guys palms with silver.....

The car manual download function on service box describes a bluetooth RT5 for Jan 2009 on cars, which is when mine was registered. Unfortunately it was built in October 2008. I'm not madly in love with the unit I've got and now that I've effectively disabled the rear parking sensors there's little justification for not going aftermarket.

The other consideration is that the camper really needs an update too - it has an original fit Pioneer Avic head unit with flip out double DIN screen, remote cd changer + integral satnav which can't be updated further than 2009. When the display's out it partially hides the reversing camera monitor, (which is also in need of an update). The van has a separate Parrot bluetooth phone thinghy.

In a perfect world, I would fit both vehicles with very similar aftermarket units, (so doddery old fool doesn't have to learn multiple interfaces), that did all of the above. Sounds like a winter project, or one I'll never get round to.
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Re: The wonky £1K citron Citroën

Post by Doggy » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:54 am

Any of the hydraulic hose outfits should be able to help, 'we' (before I retired), used to get one of them to make similar-ish things up on site. Maybe if you crossed one of their guys palms with silver.....

The car manual download function on service box describes a bluetooth RT5 for Jan 2009 on cars, which is when mine was registered. Unfortunately it was built in October 2008. I'm not madly in love with the unit I've got and now that I've effectively disabled the rear parking sensors there's little justification for not going aftermarket.

The other consideration is that the camper really needs an update too - it has an original fit Pioneer Avic head unit with flip out double DIN screen, remote cd changer + integral satnav which can't be updated further than 2009. When the display's out it partially hides the reversing camera monitor, (which is also in need of an update). The van has a separate Parrot bluetooth phone thinghy.

In a perfect world, I would fit both vehicles with very similar aftermarket units, (so doddery old fool doesn't have to learn multiple interfaces), that did all of the above. Sounds like a winter project, or one I'll never get round to.
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Re: The wonky £1K citron Citroën

Post by rwb » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:13 pm

Finally got it up on the ramp.

So a previous repair has been bodged rather badly. They used some quite stiff plastic hose and left it rubbing against the driveshaft.
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Citroen want £350 for a complete pipe set, and because of all the rigid pieces in it it's probably impossible to install without removing the engine. So -- since we have proof that jubilee clips do in fact hold it -- it's getting a new piece of hydraulic hose routed slightly differently.

There is rigid pipe from the rack which runs parallel with "more pipe" in a solid piece shaped round the subframe, then you can see at the bottom left the front of that pipe where it was joined to hose. You can see the hole to the left of the CV joint.
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£3 (I gave them a fiver because tha'ts what was in my pocket) for a piece of pipe and some "clic clips" from a brilliant local hydraulic place. Although they didn't have much to say about joining rigid to hose.

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Re: The wonky £1K citron Citroën

Post by GingerMagic » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:01 pm

Nothing wrong with the flexible hoses...
I recently broke a metal pipe off my lorry by gently* brushing it against a lamp post - The Hose Doctor came round and fitted a temporary flexible pipe, which is a vast improvement over the metal pipe and still withstands around 300bar.... :cheesy:
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Re: The wonky £1K citron Citroën

Post by Doggy » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:36 am

Sounds like a result with the hose - my 406's aircon and my bro's power steering both did a year or two with similar repairs.
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