Getting New Remote Key

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ShadowStripes
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Getting New Remote Key

Post by ShadowStripes » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:08 pm

Hello everyone.


So, another woe in my 'Logbook'.

A couple weeks ago I took the car into a local Peugeot Dealer for a repair on the AC. All good with that, the AC now works flawlessly.

Trouble is, someone there 'apparently' dropped my keyfob and it 'apparently' started triggering the central lock at random. So, their solution was to 'apparently' remove the battery and, since the keyfob had the plastic button missing, they 'apparenly' also removed the microswitch in the circuit board.

(...note my liberal use of the word 'Apparently'...)

After a stern convo with the chief of operations there, they claimed that, not only they couldn't prove that the key wasn't already faulty, but they also couldn't provide a new 'working' keyfob since (quote) "these remotes are no longer fabricated"...

I realise that the 406 is an 'old car'... having been launched in 1995, and this D8.5 is creeping up on 17 years...

But I can't help but being a little bit 'miffed' at this reply from an official dealer...


Anyone knows if this is true, and if these keys 'really' can't be replaced... ?
2001 -> 2016 - a bunch of Puntos, Golfs, Astras and even a Clio
2016 -> ____ - Y2000 406 Break 2.0 HDI 110 Executive (Monaco Blue)

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Re: Getting New Remote Key

Post by dirtydirtydiesel » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:01 pm

It depends on which key you have I'm afraid, if it's the later chunky type these are still available over here but there shockingly expensive :frown:
If you have the earlier teardrop shaped one then that is no longer available, ebay is the only way :?
Thing is I am still having problems getting mine to work, so I can't be any more help than that I'm afraid :(

One thing,
over here we have people on ebay offering key repair services, as long as your PCB is ok & intact they can fix the rest
I've had one of these done & was very happy with it.
2002 110 HDi estate, Rapier in monaco blue! ( found quite a bit more power :cheesy: )
1999 3.0 V6 SE coupe in Diablo Red ( my baby )
2006 206 1.4 16v sport in Aegean blue ( wife's shopping trolley :roll: )

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Re: Getting New Remote Key

Post by frog » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:45 am

These kind of things are exactly the reason why i'm not bringing my car to the dealer any more.

Dealers are good for new cars, where there is essentially nothing more to be done than reading the oil dipstick every now and then, and filling up the windscreen wiper fluid. During the factory warranty period they are there to replace the parts that the factory has recalled. As long as they can do it for free without voiding your warranty that is all fine.

Dealers are useless for old cars. They often break more than they repair.

If i'd be in your situation, i'd go an look for a key of a scrapped 406 of the same model. You can "learn" that key into your car using the PP2000 software.

Note that if you start learning one (replacement) key, you must learn them all. So if you have a spare, you'll also have to learn that as well within the same learning session.
Current "fleet":
2003 406 Estate 2.0HDi 110 - 7 seater
2001 Citroen Saxo 1.6i 8v 100

Previously owned:
2000 406 Sedan 2.0 HDi 90
2000 406 Coupé 2.0i 16v 138 - Riviera Blue

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Re: Getting New Remote Key

Post by Doggy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:05 pm

I thought so too, but I mislaid my spare key then lost synch with the remaining one when changing the car battery.
Got the PIN & got it to 're-learn' the key.
Several years later found the spare key and hey presto - it worked too.
2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate

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Re: Getting New Remote Key

Post by frog » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:26 pm

Ah, so you don't have to re-learn them all. That is good to know!
Current "fleet":
2003 406 Estate 2.0HDi 110 - 7 seater
2001 Citroen Saxo 1.6i 8v 100

Previously owned:
2000 406 Sedan 2.0 HDi 90
2000 406 Coupé 2.0i 16v 138 - Riviera Blue

PP2000 user, can help with faults / diagnostics in the Netherlands.

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