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A Volvo in the family.

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A Volvo in the family.

Postby jasper5 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:25 pm

Today, my son joined the Volvo clan, he bought a C30 1.6 Diesel.
Top of the range model full of toys.
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Re: A Volvo in the family.

Postby GingerMagic » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:31 pm

I hear its a cracker. The same engine as in the Mini but more frugal and not in a Mini.. 8)

Good car, good choice, good fun to be had.... :cheesy:
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Re: A Volvo in the family.

Postby Captain Jack » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:40 am

Thought Volvo fitted 1.6 engines from Ford, which are PSA HDIs...?

2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
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2013 - ????: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp :twisted:)
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Re: A Volvo in the family.

Postby GingerMagic » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:22 am

You could be right - I was just chatting to an elderly gent who swapped is 1.6 diesel Mini for the 1.6 diesel Volvo. He said it was the same engine but he may have meant its the same size.
He did stress that the Volvo was a much better car though.
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Re: A Volvo in the family.

Postby Bailes1992 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:08 am

Mini diesel also uses the PSA engine.

Not a fan of any Volvo that uses the Focus floorpan.
Volvo took one of the best handling cars in it's class and royally cocked it up!

The C30/S40/V50 are all the same!
Driving position just feels wrong. All the pedals feel numb, the steering doesn't feel connected to the front wheels in any way at all and they don't handle particularly well!

Shame because they're nice looking and the interior is extremely well screwed together!
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Re: A Volvo in the family.

Postby jasper5 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:00 pm

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Re: A Volvo in the family.

Postby Bailes1992 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:10 pm

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Re: A Volvo in the family.

Postby jasper5 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:22 pm

The car my son bought is the R design SE Lux.

I think it's great, nothing like what you or your friend says.

My son is a Volvo trained mechanic and of course I have vast experience with cars.

The important thing is that we both agree it's a great car....it looks good, drives great, handles well, and in black it looks the business.
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Re: A Volvo in the family.

Postby GingerMagic » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:34 pm

My dream car is, and always has been, the 850 T5R - in Olive Green- preferably the limited edition one from TWR Racing. This is the 5 cylinder motor that found its way into the Focus ST - Volvo had it first..!!

The last one I saw was on eBay, slightly tweaked to obliterate Evo's etc, went for £3k.

Way out of my price bracket, and the MPG is quite poor but I can dream can't I??
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Re: A Volvo in the family.

Postby Bailes1992 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:45 pm

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Re: A Volvo in the family.

Postby GingerMagic » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:56 pm

I believe that most people with the AWD versions simply disconnected the rear end as it was all over the place if tyre pressure was out a bit.. :roll:

The later V70 is also a good looking motor - especially in the Bronze / Orange colour.... Cheap as chips too.
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Re: A Volvo in the family.

Postby Welly » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:44 am

Oh noes I'm going to have to join in now........erm, Jasper is right - fantastic cars of very high quality and I think 'improved' somewhat since Ford were in charge. I can see why you and your Son would be pleased with it; he must be especially so at his age.

But also Bailes is right, especially the 2004 to 2009-ish cars were a bit of a disappointment when Ford stuck their penny-pinching noses in. It is the same platform and it is well recorded that Volvo slowed-down the capability of the chassis by tweaking the suspension/geometry etc I have no idea why other than perhaps to suit the typical Volvo audience? I have driven a 2003 Focus and it was a hoot but the Volvo just doesn't make you feel the same; it just won't dart about like the Fords, but as I said it was never supposed to either. Point the Volvo down a Motorway though and it makes sense, planted and composed.

I've had my car for 5 years now and taken it from 23K to 67K miles. There is very little in terms of driver feel with the larger S40/V50 which shares the same platform as the C30 (maybe the smaller C30 body suits the chassis more) but perhaps they have addressed this now. My steering wheel is too big, there's very little in feedback but I did improve this massively with an uprated IPD anti-roll bar and a Volvo strut brace. I've replaced 3 of the main Wishbones, 2 x coil springs, 2 x top mounts, 2 x Drop Links, 3-sets of rear 'stays' (but the IPD bar puts these under strain) 1 x inner tie-rod and now I'd like to replace the dampers as these do not react quickly enough and give a crashy ride. All of these suspension troubles have been a bit annoying to be fair.

I've kept my car because it's in fine condition with reasonable miles, the paintwork is amazing and there's no rust in any of the seams or underneath and overall I like it, especially the performance. I wouldn't buy another model with all the Ford stuff on it though. To be fair I don't know where they source the sussy parts from now on the new cars? perhaps jasper could find out? it would be interesting for me.
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Re: A Volvo in the family.

Postby jasper5 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:52 pm

The car is 2012 with 21,000 miles on it.
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