front springs Question

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front springs Question

Post by johntl » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:38 am

I understand the need to lower the 406 but isn't there a need to get stronger/stiffer springs ??? any out there ??

back in the old days of mk1/2 escorts it was the eg: 25mm lower but also 145lb springs ??

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Re: front springs Question

Post by johntl » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:09 am

anybody seen the full set of IEBACH pro ones on e-bay for £105 has anybody had any before ?? 30mm lowering

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Re: front springs Question

Post by PeterN » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:54 am

There used to be a place called 'Wigan Road Springs' who would make them to your specification, I used them a lot for diesel conversions, don't know if such a place exists now.

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Re: front springs Question

Post by johntl » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:57 am

cheers for that peter , good to know they are good quality
will treat myself when the old bank balance allows !! :roll:

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Re: front springs Question

Post by jasper5 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:13 pm

This company has been going as long as I can remember...just 10 minutes drive from me.

https://www.rossroadsprings.co.uk/

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Re: front springs Question

Post by steve_earwig » Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:23 pm

There's a need to lower a 406? :shock: I always wished mine had more ground clearance...
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Re: front springs Question

Post by dirtydirtydiesel » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:05 pm

You'll find that the eibachs are slightly stiffer anyway
& by the nature of lowering it you are increasing the spring rate.

Don't forget to change your dampers while your in there & your strut top bearings at the minimum.
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Re: front springs Question

Post by jasper5 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:09 pm

steve_earwig wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:23 pm
There's a need to lower a 406? :shock: I always wished mine had more ground clearance...
When my brother lowered his, after putting his exhaust back on about 5 or 6 times, I took off his lowering kit and fitted the correct springs!!!
After first getting annoyed he thanked me for it later :)

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Re: front springs Question

Post by johntl » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:42 am

Just would like to make it handle better, anybody tried stiffer standard height springs ? :roll:

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Re: front springs Question

Post by PeterN » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:30 am

Personally I think they got the 406 just about right, very good compromise between comfort and handling. I have a later one with 16" wheels now which had made the ride harder, I'm, going to change them for the 15" from my old one - but then I'm old.

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Re: front springs Question

Post by dirtydirtydiesel » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:48 pm

Well as I've said mines 40mm has been for 5 years never caught the exhaust on anything
& that's my driveway with a crest, sleeping policemen, the traffic calming bumps, oh & we regularly go dirt biking
which has me driving down bumpy lumpy dirt tracks with no issue's what so ever.

I'll even post up pictures of my underside & the ride height if needed.

Mine is small compared to some on the 406 face book page, try 120mm drop :shock:
Oh & that car is on 20" wheels mine's now on 17's & the ride is fine.

When I first bought it, it was way to boat like for me & I'm 47 so no pup.
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Re: front springs Question

Post by dirtydirtydiesel » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:54 pm

johntl wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:42 am
Just would like to make it handle better, anybody tried stiffer standard height springs ? :roll:
How many miles has your stock stuff done, anything past 100k & 15 years old & all your bushes will be way past there best
The damping will have gone way off & all your springs will be saging.

Just all new stuff will make it feel much tauter, then there's a coupe strut brace. That bolt's straight on, coupe 16" wheels
More offset & slightly less sidewall for improved feel.

How deep are your pockets?
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Re: front springs Question

Post by jasper5 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:14 pm

dirtydirtydiesel wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:48 pm
Well as I've said mines 40mm has been for 5 years never caught the exhaust on anything
& that's my driveway with a crest, sleeping policemen, the traffic calming bumps, oh & we regularly go dirt biking
which has me driving down bumpy lumpy dirt tracks with no issue's what so ever.

I'll even post up pictures of my underside & the ride height if needed.

Mine is small compared to some on the 406 face book page, try 120mm drop :shock:
Oh & that car is on 20" wheels mine's now on 17's & the ride is fine.

When I first bought it, it was way to boat like for me & I'm 47 so no pup.

Perhaps I have a vivid imagination!

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Re: front springs Question

Post by dirtydirtydiesel » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:49 pm

20160716_092952.jpg
If you blow it up & look at the wheelarch clearance you'll see she's 40mm lower
Pic with my coupe 16's on before the 17's
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Re: front springs Question

Post by Doggy » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:03 am

I've encountered a few of these outfits I'd like to blow up recently, specially the one that tried to move back into lane 1 while his van was still beside my door....

Sorry, rant over, The clearance looks fine to me.

Wish I'd had the foresight to spend enough on my 406 to keep it tickety-boo. :mrgreen:
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