406 exec Estate gearbox

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406 exec Estate gearbox

Post by cliffk » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:16 am

Hi I have a 2003 2.0 hdi Estate and have just bought a 2001 2.0 hdi exec Estate
Reverse on my 2003 is over to the left and on the 2001 it's over to the right and down is this normal?

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Re: 406 exec Estate gearbox

Post by PeterN » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:46 am

Yep, I have two '51 reg almost identical estates, on has reverse on the left the other on the right, most confusing when I change cars. I thought the l/h reverse was the later box but apparently not as my wife has an 03, 206 and that has the r/h side reverse.

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Re: 406 exec Estate gearbox

Post by steve_earwig » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:44 am

Early is ML5T, later is ML5C, Pug swear blind they're not interchangeable but the only difference I can see is the detent springs on the sychronisers changed.
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Re: 406 exec Estate gearbox

Post by Doggy » Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:59 pm

+1 the ML5C (compact)? has a slightly shorter casing, (by about 10mm).

An ML6C is the same size as the ML5T and still has reverse beside 1st
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Re: 406 exec Estate gearbox

Post by cliffk » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:06 pm

OK Thanks guys worries over

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Re: 406 exec Estate gearbox

Post by steve_earwig » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:23 pm

Doggy wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:59 pm
+1 the ML5C (compact)? has a slightly shorter casing, (by about 10mm).

An ML6C is the same size as the ML5T and still has reverse beside 1st
Now that I didn't know, all I can do is look at badly drawn pictures. Would that mean the gears themselves smaller/thinner? I.e. weaker...
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Re: 406 exec Estate gearbox

Post by PeterN » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:19 am

I wouldn't worry about it, I have never had a 406 gearbox fail.

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Re: 406 exec Estate gearbox

Post by Doggy » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:52 pm

Think they're same, just more of.

As to longevity, mine did 70k in it's original cistern C5 & has tolerated 120k of 400Nm+ abuse since 2013. :supafrisk:
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Re: 406 exec Estate gearbox

Post by PeterN » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:55 am

I have two with 200+k on them, very slight whine and 2nd baulks when cold, otherwise perfect.

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