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binnzy
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intermitant start

Post by binnzy » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:26 pm

2000 110 hdi I'll start at the beginning, went to work no problems, finished work car wouldn't start, obd reader gave code p0380 glow plugs tested glow plug relay ok, removed glow plugs and tested two no good fitted new set glow plugs, still no start. removed fuel pipe turned on ignition no fuel, tested for power to pump ok. fitted new fuel pump started ok, went home morning after won't start, noticed a leak from leak off pipe fitted a new set started ok, morning after won't start, fit new fuel filter starts ok, morning after won't start, bsi reset no start, left battery disconnected for 3 hours started ok. running out of ideas somebody please help, next option is a gallon of petrol and a box of swan vestas
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PeterN
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Re: intermitant start

Post by PeterN » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:29 pm

Can you hear the fuel pump in the tank running when you turn on the ignition, it will usually only run for a few seconds but you should be able to hear it. If not you probably have a relay or wiring fault. If it is, disconnect the filter inlet pipe and see if there is actually fuel arriving there.

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Re: intermitant start

Post by frog » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:30 am

Could well be an electrical problem. My previous 406 had the same problem, it usually started but sometimes just refused. A few hours (or a day) later it would start just fine.

Check the BM34 box, the fuse box in the engine compartment (google for BM34 and look at the images). Remove all fuses one by one and use electrical contract spray to clean the contacts before reseating. Make sure to remove, clean and re-attach the earth straps. A bad electrical contact can make the difference between a starter and a non-starter.
Current "fleet":
2003 406 Estate 2.0HDi 110 - 7 seater
2001 Citroen Saxo 1.6i 8v 100

Previously owned:
2000 406 Sedan 2.0 HDi 90
2000 406 Coupé 2.0i 16v 138 - Riviera Blue

PP2000 user, can help with faults / diagnostics in the Netherlands.

binnzy
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Re: intermitant start

Post by binnzy » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:11 am

fitted a new fuel pump, I will clean the fusebox in the morning
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binnzy
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Re: intermitant start

Post by binnzy » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:51 am

Anybody near Preston Lancashire with PP2000
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binnzy
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Re: intermitant start

Post by binnzy » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:52 pm

tried my best today cannot find what's wrong I think it's time for the big car park in the sky
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Re: intermitant start

Post by jasper5 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:31 pm

I have pp2000...I'm in Blackburn.

frog
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Re: intermitant start

Post by frog » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:45 pm

If it is not the (low pressure) fuel pump and all electrics are ok, then the last thing that i can think of is the high pressure fuel pump, or the rail pressure sensor.

If i recall correctly there needs to be at least 200 bar of rail pressure detected before the engine management will start operating the injectors.

A too low pressure can be caused by a failing pump, but it can (more often) also be caused by a leaking injector or bad plumbing (fuel pipes / connectors).

With PP2000 you could monitor the detected rail pressure while cranking.

Here is an interesting story of some-one with a similar problem: https://citroenc3owners.com/diesel-citr ... l?start=20 .
Current "fleet":
2003 406 Estate 2.0HDi 110 - 7 seater
2001 Citroen Saxo 1.6i 8v 100

Previously owned:
2000 406 Sedan 2.0 HDi 90
2000 406 Coupé 2.0i 16v 138 - Riviera Blue

PP2000 user, can help with faults / diagnostics in the Netherlands.

binnzy
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Re: intermitant start

Post by binnzy » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:02 pm

Thanks Jasper if I decide to play with it any more I will get in touch, I really like the car I've had it 8 years and I love driving it, most comfortable car I've ever had for motorway driving, but I think it's come to an end, the clutch is on its way out and other things need doing, I can't justify spending much more money on it. My daughter lives in Darwin practically next door to Blackburn.
Regards Ian
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Re: intermitant start

Post by jasper5 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:42 pm

Let me know if decide to play again.

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